are UFOs and extraterestrials real? (church, prophecies, Islamic, Jerusalem)

[gsoboi]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

Roswell was not they only place one crashed, and it appears these guys just can't keep their ships together. It might be of some intrest to you, that even John Keel, who was one of the world's leading UFO researchers stated, that the more he got involved in UFO research, the more he found himself catapulted into the world of demonology. I myself have heard a number of people over the years tell me that the existance of UFOs proves to them there is no God, because the Bible does not speak of them. However, I believe the Bible does speak of them, and their intentions. The Bible speaks of a great day of deception that will come upon mankind. And I believe we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg when it comes to UFOs. John Keel is not a Christian to my knowledge, yet in his book, "Why UFO's" he speaks of a possible deception to come, and this deception appears to mirror the coming deception the Bible speaks of.

I agree I believe a profound series of events will happen in the end times and it will involve UFOs. Make no mistake, there is a hidden agenda by our government and even the ETs themselves. The Bible does speak of ETs in the form of fallen angels. I also believe there is a connection between the Great Pyramid and the ETs/Fallen Angels. Im not saying they built the pyramids but there is a connection. A number of archeologist are saying that the Great Pyramd and Sphinx are older than history tells us. Proof of this come from the rain weathering around the base of the Sphinx. The last time the Giza Plateau saw signifigant rain fall was around 10,500 BC. The Pyramids are laid out to match the constelation of Orien as it appeared in the sky in 10,500 BC so there is something signifigant about that date. Many scientist believe thats when the great flood happened. If thats the case, the Great Pyramid was built to protect something from the flood such as a secret knowledge. The Biblical Nephilim, offspring of the fallen angels existed on earth before the Great Flood so there could be some sort of evidence in or beneath the Pyramid complex that proves that extraterestrial are real. Suposedly Egyptian authorities have discovered a 15,000 year old vast complex underground city (city of the gods) under the Pyramids of Giza and they are covering up this find. It is the legacy of a civilization and a technology way beyond our own. A technology capable of creating a vast underground city, of which the sphinx and pyramids are merely the surface markers. The city was built in a huge natural cavern system where there is a large underground lake. It is replete with temples, pastel-painted peasant dwellings, workshops, stables and other buildings including a palace. Complete with hydraulic under-ground waterways and it has been said that there is evidence there that proves of a pre flood civilization before the Egyptians (Atlantians). If thats the case, there is evidence of the Nephilim and the Fallen Angels mentioned in the Bible. The evidence in this under ground city also revealed some sort of a grand DNA experiment.(sounds like the fallen angels were involved). it was said that the technology discovered down there was beyond our own (not refering to machine technology). It was also said that an "object" found down there was sent to NASA for analysis. That would be the reason for the cover up. Many ask how did the people see down there in the dark or even in the Pyramids? One thing is for sure, the ancient Egytians didnt use torches because Scientist have said there is no torch soot or marks in the Pyramids. The Egyptians used a light source but it wasnt fire. Did they have access to some kind of extraterestrial knowledge? We know that ancient batteries have been found near the pyramids and there are heoroglyphs of what appears to be a light bulb.

But I do believe there is a connection between the fallen angels and the Great Pyramid. It wasnt built as a tomb like the other pyramids so what was it built for?

ancient light bulb



Iamblichus recorded a fascinating account that was found on a very ancient Egyptian papyrus held in a mosque in Cairo. It was part of a 100 BC story by an unknown author about a group of people who gained entry to underground chambers around Giza for exploratory purposes.

They described their experience:
We came to a chamber. When we entered, it became automatically illuminated by light from a tube being the height of one man's hand [approx. 6 inches or 15.24 cm] and thin, standing vertically in the corner. As we approached the tube, it shone brighter. . .the slaves were scared and ran away in the direction from which we had come! When I touched it, it went out.

We made every effort to get the tube to glow again, but it would no longer provide light. In some chambers the light tubes worked and in others they did not. We broke open one of the tubes and it bled beads of silver-colored liquid that ran fastly around the floor until they disappeared between the cracks (mercury?)

As time went on, the light tubes gradually began to fail and the priests removed them and stored them in an underground vault they specially built southeast of the plateau. It was their belief that the light tubes were created by their beloved Imhotep (a god from the sky), who would some day return to make them work once again.



Whats this? aircraft? looks like a helicopter, two planes and a cigar shaped craft.

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by MontanaGuy

Campbell34 wrote:

I'm glad I was sitting down when I read that one! So the Muslims and the Hindus, etc. were all started by aliens? I guess I missed that edition of The National Enquiror. Anyway, I hope you're having a happy Easter.

THere are writings concerning the Hindu scriptures which do interpret them in such a way.

I have no way of knowing what the truth is, so I will listen and reserve giving an opinion, but I do think the Old Testiment diety seems more like a person with a really serious ego problem. Power in the hands of a child . . .

The OT god reminds me a bit of the ancient Greek gods, throwing tantrums and demonstrating some of the worst aspects of humanity.

[gsoboi]

In regards to the Pyramids at Giza


YouTube - Sphinx & Great Pyramids -True Ages Revealed

[gsoboi]

More proof of ETs? Zahi Hawass, director of the Giza site for the Egyptian Antiquities Authority was involved in the opening of the tomb of the god of Osiris. Acording to the ancient Egyptians the gods came from the skies and in the Bible they are called fallen angels. Today we call them ETs. So did Hawass find an alien body in this tomb? You might want to know that while this tomb was being opened, the U.S. and Egyptian armies were placed on high alert.

"Why were the U.S. and Egyptian armies placed on high alert while this excavation was going on? Surely, they were not mobilized just to deter thieves from raiding the tomb. This was an unprecedented move, for never before were American and Egyptian armies mobilized to protect an archaeological excavation, which suggests that more is going on here than the Egyptian authorities are willing to admit "

Why is the U.S. goverenment involved with this anyway?

Zawass did say he found a stone tablet and an empty sarcophagus. This of course parallels with the "Emerald Tabelets of Thoth" Thoth is also the same person as "Enoch" grandfather of Noah and has been associated with building the Great Pyramid. According to the Bible, Enoch was "taken" by God into the heavens and was shown the secrets of the universe. anyway Thoth said in one of the tombs he built would be an empty sarcophagus and tablet. Thoth(Enoch) was known as the the Atlantean, master of mysteries, keeper of records.

Zawass will not allow anyone to enter this tomb and that includes historians and archaeologists. Why would the ancient Egyptians go through the trouble of building a tomb without putting a boddy in it? Also it was the first time the tomb had been opened. Clearly Zawass is hiding an important find and we know for fact the US government is involved.

Empty Tomb and Strange Glyphs ... a C... - BIRDMAN - tribe.net

[coosjoaquin]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

They are not here to produce offspring for themselves. They are here to destroy God's creation, that is why God had to destroy the world with a flood the first time. Their offspring were not fully human. The Bible tells us a race of giants was created. There are a number of historical accounts that point that such was the case.

I'm telling you once again that reality doesn't work that way. When you try to breed a cow and an elephant together, even by insemination nothing will be produced. No offspring

[_redbird_]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

It might be of some intrest to you, that even John Keel, who was one of the world's leading UFO researchers stated, that the more he got involved in UFO research, the more he found himself catapulted into the world of demonology.
I myself have heard a number of people over the years tell me that the existance of UFOs proves to them there is no God, because the Bible does not speak of them.

That's funny, I have never heard anyone say that the existence of UFO proves there is no God. I guess it's just another example of the old adage: A person's perception is colored more by what's behind the eyes, than what is in front of them.

I have also never heard of anyone stating they became catapulted into the world of demonolgy corresponding with UFO research.
I am not saying it did not happen, and in fact, after reading these threads, it is of no great surprise. In fact, every person I know who is interested in UFO's has absolutely no interest in demonology. I guess poor Mr. Keel needs an Exorcist by now.

I guess it just goes to show if you are looking for something, you will most likely find it. And I think your posts show you are definitely convinced there is a satanic/UFO relationship. You have your opinion, so its cool. Whatever. To each his own.

I think its kind of sad the way some people take everything and mold it into their religious worldview even if it has nothing to do with religion. Like floods. Floods are naturally occuring events, yet somewhere someone will claim its God's punishment on someone somewhere for doing something that is against their religion.

Price of gas going up? Its GOD! Or it's SATAN!
Tornado? its GOD! *or SATAN!
My MIL fell and hurt her hip.... IT'S GOD! or IT's SATAN!

[harley rider]

Originally Posted by redbird4848

That's funny, I have never heard anyone say that the existence of UFO proves there is no God. I guess it's just another example of the old adage: A person's perception is colored more by what's behind the eyes, than what is in front of them.

I have also never heard of anyone stating they became catapulted into the world of demonolgy corresponding with UFO research.
I am not saying it did not happen, and in fact, after reading these threads, it is of no great surprise. In fact, every person I know who is interested in UFO's has absolutely no interest in demonology. I guess poor Mr. Keel needs an Exorcist by now.

I guess it just goes to show if you are looking for something, you will most likely find it. And I think your posts show you are definitely convinced there is a satanic/UFO relationship. You have your opinion, so its cool. Whatever. To each his own.

I think its kind of sad the way some people take everything and mold it into their religious worldview even if it has nothing to do with religion. Like floods. Floods are naturally occuring events, yet somewhere someone will claim its God's punishment on someone somewhere for doing something that is against their religion.

Price of gas going up? Its GOD! Or it's SATAN!
Tornado? its GOD! *or SATAN!
My MIL fell and hurt her hip.... IT'S GOD! or IT's SATAN!

Gee, I tought everyone blamed G.W. BUSH for everything that goes wrong, looks like I was wrong.

[MontanaGuy]

gsoboi wrote:

More proof of ETs? Zahi Hawass, director of the Giza site for the Egyptian Antiquities Authority was involved in the opening of the tomb of the god of Osiris. Acording to the ancient Egyptians the gods came from the skies and in the Bible they are called fallen angels. Today we call them ETs. So did Hawass find an alien body in this tomb? You might want to know that while this tomb was being opened, the U.S. and Egyptian armies were placed on high alert.

Do you have a link or any documentation that would support the part about the US and Egyptian armies being placed on high alert? I would imagine that this would have been headline news if it were true but I've never heard of it. I could understand the need for security if an important archeological event was taking place but you're making it sound like our military were concerned that they might have to do battle with aliens or something. I'm just wondering what your source of information is. Thanks.

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by coosjoaquin

I'm telling you once again that reality doesn't work that way. When you try to breed a cow and an elephant together, even by insemination nothing will be produced. No offspring

Coosjoaquin, we are not talking about cows and elephants. Were talking about mankind, and God's fallen angles which according to the Bible had the abilty to have offspring after taking human women as their wives. However, their offspring became evil, and some of them became giants. They were like monsters. All over the world we hear of the numerous stories of large skeletal remains that have been unearthed, and this is powerful evidence that such beings really did exist.

Giant Human Remains - From records and sources all over the world.

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by redbird4848

That's funny, I have never heard anyone say that the existence of UFO proves there is no God. I guess it's just another example of the old adage: A person's perception is colored more by what's behind the eyes, than what is in front of them.

I have also never heard of anyone stating they became catapulted into the world of demonolgy corresponding with UFO research.
I am not saying it did not happen, and in fact, after reading these threads, it is of no great surprise. In fact, every person I know who is interested in UFO's has absolutely no interest in demonology. I guess poor Mr. Keel needs an Exorcist by now.

I guess it just goes to show if you are looking for something, you will most likely find it. And I think your posts show you are definitely convinced there is a satanic/UFO relationship. You have your opinion, so its cool. Whatever. To each his own.

I think its kind of sad the way some people take everything and mold it into their religious worldview even if it has nothing to do with religion. Like floods. Floods are naturally occuring events, yet somewhere someone will claim its God's punishment on someone somewhere for doing something that is against their religion.

Price of gas going up? Its GOD! Or it's SATAN!
Tornado? its GOD! *or SATAN!
My MIL fell and hurt her hip.... IT'S GOD! or IT's SATAN!

Mr. Keel is considered a cutting edge researcher. I would suggest you learn to keep up with the research. And Mr. Keel, and his friends found themselves surrounded with a number of unnatural happings the more involved he got into that research. Keel states, that if you want to learn about the orgins of the UFO's, then it's the contact stories you should focuse on and not the endless UFO sightings. It's what happens to many of the people after the sightings of the UFO's that will give you insite into their orgin. And I might add, I believed that UFO's had an evil connection long before I knew about Keels research. Even with Keel not being a Christian, his research only confirmed my orginal thoughts on the matter. What's sad, is when their is obvious evidence present and it is rejected because of one's world view. In my case, the evidence is supported by my Biblical view. The beings who are behind the UfO flights, have no intentions of giving away who they are. They are pushing the deception, that they are from an advanced race, and that is what the world will believe in the end. A real day of horror is coming. It will be Hell on earth.