are UFOs and extraterestrials real? (Commandment, body, Noah, angels)

[gsoboi]

The good ETs are actually the good angels and the bad ETs are the fallen angels. But I strongly believe that ETs and angels are the same beings. The word extraterestrial wasnt in the vocabulary of man when the Bible was written so they called them angels.

[gsoboi]

Originally Posted by Aeroman

Several posts have gone by and no mention of little green men or flying saucers.

Is this thread done?

Now I’m not sure if these things exist or not. If they exist that’s ok with me, it they don’t than that’s fine to.
If they were really evil would they just probe someone and let them live,or wipe there memory so they don’t have to relive the experience.
I’m beginning to think that maybe they only probe those that believe in God so I’m safe for now.
Or maybe there just here looking for there lost pet. Here Nessie Nessie.



Cheers,
Aeroman

LOL I think thereis a relationship with the little green men and the Bible

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by gsoboi

The good ETs are actually the good angels and the bad ETs are the fallen angels. But I strongly believe that ETs and angels are the same beings. The word extraterestrial wasnt in the vocabulary of man when the Bible was written so they called them angels.

Yep. I am inclined to agree. We react to beings with power like 'cargo cults' do. We are fearful and also worship the strange and powerful.

Yet, these are beings with their own problems and agendas, and having somehow evolved to be more powerful does not mean that they are evolved any higher than us in their moral nature.

The difficulty is that we are not always ethical in our dealings with other and we cannot even trust the leadership of our own world.

I am thinking of how easily we slipped into this Iraq invasion when research would indicate, beforehand, that we were wrong and many political commentators were saying so, yet we did it. How much easier would it be for our leadership to con us into some war with aliens?

[gsoboi]

Well it was said by some goverenment officials who have come forward with UFOs that the governement will eventually use UFOs as a threat once it is finally revealed to the public. These officials said the miltary industrial complex survives on the fear of people. They said they first used communism, now they are using terrorism and they will use the "extraterestrial threat" This is how Satan will deceive the world in the end days. First the knowledge of extraterestrial will be reveiled to the masses and will make people all over the world question thier faith and not believe in God or Jesus because these beings will say they either created man or altered man's DNA. Satan will decieve people into thinking that the "return of Christ" is actually an extraterestrial threat and the world will side with the anti-christ to fight this threat. The Bible says the whole world will praise the anti-christ because he will perform miracles that will seem like magic to people (extraterestrial technology in the works). UFOs will play a big role in the end of days. Satan has an agenda so hes not going to show his hand til hes ready. Therefore the alien presence will remain under wraps for now.

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by gsoboi

Well it was said by some goverenment officials who have come forward with UFOs that the governement will eventually use UFOs as a threat once it is finally revealed to the public. These officials said the miltary industrial complex survives on the fear of people. They said they first used communism, now they are using terrorism and they will use the "extraterestrial threat" This is how Satan will deceive the world in the end days. First the knowledge of extraterestrial will be reveiled to the masses and will make people all over the world question thier faith and not believe in God or Jesus because these beings will say they either created man or altered man's DNA. Satan will decieve people into thinking that the "return of Christ" is actually an extraterestrial threat and the world will side with the anti-christ to fight this threat. The Bible says the whole world will praise the anti-christ because he will perform miracles that will seem like magic to people (extraterestrial technology in the works). UFOs will play a big role in the end of days. Satan has an agenda so hes not going to show his hand til hes ready. Therefore the alien presence will remain under wraps for now.

I guess that puts me in an unusual place because I beleive in a god, but the OT god is not a very nice being. Christ, if he existed, is ok.

I think if and when we have real contact, we have to judge them on our own, being by being. There is nothing that disagrees with the thought that the same group of aliens can contain both decent beings and nut-jobs, just like we and our military and government.

I never saw anything in the bible to say that aliens will claim that they tinkered with our genetic code, but they could have. The way I see the bible stuff, there is some sort of animosity amongst aliens. They may have divided into multiple groups. They will both be beings of light and work 'magic'. They will both say they are good and claim to be our friends.

We, again, see evil from our own perspective, what is good and what is not good for us. It is more difficult to label something as evil if you try to remove yourself from the human condition. You just see, if a being is material, that it takes other life forms to feed itself. As such, our very lives are rooted in horror and evil for other beings, at least this is the case so long as we remain in our bodies.

The bible, as I see it, is a collection of folklore that is very deeply rooted in the myths of the people who now live here. This eventually has to lead us into trouble because it will cloud our perceptions and lead us into drawing false conclusions.

[coosjoaquin]

Well i think we should be really cautious of ufos, logically any alien civilization
would either be incredibly primitive or incredibly advance
to us. There is nothing to say that they will come in peace and nature tells us that violence is not a one off thing

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by coosjoaquin

Well i think we should be really cautious of ufos, logically any alien civilization
would either be incredibly primitive or incredibly advance
to us. There is nothing to say that they will come in peace and nature tells us that violence is not a one off thing

I am not sure that I understand. I can see thinking that they are more advanced because we are not visiting them (that we know of), but I cannot see them being more primitive. It is possible that nature just gives us different talents, and they are born with a certain ability to shift through parallel universes. Or, it could be that nature is undergoing certain changes that allow for more of these visitations.

I tend to agree with the person who said we have had interactions with aliens throughout history. Early people just described them differently, in terms of the day. Moses went on a hill to talk to god and get the commandments, well maybe god is associated with the sky: that would make sense. The tower of babel reached high into the sky.

One thing, if that god comes back, I hope he's learned some manners after all this time.

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by goldengrain

I guess that puts me in an unusual place because I beleive in a god, but the OT god is not a very nice being. Christ, if he existed, is ok.

I think if and when we have real contact, we have to judge them on our own, being by being. There is nothing that disagrees with the thought that the same group of aliens can contain both decent beings and nut-jobs, just like we and our military and government.

I never saw anything in the bible to say that aliens will claim that they tinkered with our genetic code, but they could have. The way I see the bible stuff, there is some sort of animosity amongst aliens. They may have divided into multiple groups. They will both be beings of light and work 'magic'. They will both say they are good and claim to be our friends.

We, again, see evil from our own perspective, what is good and what is not good for us. It is more difficult to label something as evil if you try to remove yourself from the human condition. You just see, if a being is material, that it takes other life forms to feed itself. As such, our very lives are rooted in horror and evil for other beings, at least this is the case so long as we remain in our bodies.

The bible, as I see it, is a collection of folklore that is very deeply rooted in the myths of the people who now live here. This eventually has to lead us into trouble because it will cloud our perceptions and lead us into drawing false conclusions.

If the Bible is just folklore, why are it's endtime prophecies true?

[Bideshi]

On Satan and demons being "ET"s : Satan is referred to as "Prince of the powers of the air" in the Bible. Also, "and the great dragon, that is Satan, was cast down to the Earth" "and his place will no longer be found in Heaven" referring to the end of the age.

On non-Satanic "ET"s: "I have sheep that are not of this fold" and " He will send his angel to the far reaches of the heavens to redeem his chosen" (forgive the loose wording, I don't have my Bible handy).

So, what do we make of these scriptures? Rather a lot, I think.

Are evil ET's an advanced race? Yes, but barely. The Bible clearly states that man was created a little below the angels, but that resurrected immortal man will rule over the angels.

[gsoboi]

Originally Posted by Bideshi

The Bible clearly states that man was created a little below the angels, but that resurrected immortal man will rule over the angels.

Now I know this is going to sound crazy but that statement reminds me of what was found in Egypt under the Great Pyramids and is being covered up. According to some Egyptian scientist in the know, a vast 15,000 year old megalithic city has been found deep under the Giza Plateau which was mainly built in natural caverns. It was said that a technology beyond our own was found down there and it was that technology that helped build the Great Pyramids and this underground "city of the gods". It was said that the Great Pyramids and Sphinx were just surface markers for what is down below and is more valuable. Remember, even today's advanced human technology can not duplicate the Pyramids which such large massive stones at such a scale. Well according to this scientist on what was discovered down there, he likens it to the impact of contact with an advanced extraterrestrial culture. He said it was a 6,000 year old grand genetic experiment. He alludes to a grand spiritual science, a science which describes a genetic stairway to the stars. The scientist said The Egyptians were not fixated on the afterlife, as thought by early Christian translators but, focussed on creating a higher type of human, a type of human greater than gods or greater than angels and a type of human that obtains immortality. Thats sounds astonishing like what you have pointed out that the bible says.