are UFOs and extraterestrials real? (funeral, minority, moral, against)

[cncracer]

Originally Posted by goldengrain

¿Está grave? ¿Dónde?

Él es serio, usted necesita hablar en inglés

[gsoboi]

Originally Posted by goldengrain

¿Está grave? ¿Dónde?

Vi algo extraño en el cielo una noche.

Pudo haber sido un aeroplano

[gsoboi]

Originally Posted by cncracer

Él es serio, usted necesita hablar en inglés

estamos hablando en código LOL

[cncracer]

Originally Posted by gsoboi

estamos hablando en código LOL

Estamos sí, pero limita muchos de agregar su entrada.

[gsoboi]

Originally Posted by cncracer

Estamos sí, pero limita muchos de agregar su entrada.

entonces hablemos en inglés

[gsoboi]

Is anyone familiar with the "Battle of LA" in 1942? here is an offical photo from the LA Times and it appears that the army has spot lights glowing on a glowing saucer shaped object. The army fired at this object be their ammuniation was defelected as if this thing had "shieds" That is what you see in the photo. the ammunition exploding around the object. They fired at this thing for an hour and could not bring it down. The government's later explaination was a weather balloon.

[goldengrain]

United Nations May Recognize Alien UFO Visitations - March 2008


Mr. Gilles Lorant an attaché to the French (CNRS- National Center for Scientific Research ) and a member Institute of Advanced Studies for National Defense (IHEDN - the French Organization that produced the 1999 COMETA Report concerning UFOs) has revealed he participated in meetings the week of February 11, 2008, at the United Nations to discuss UFOs. What follows is a summary report of the UN meetings based on Lorant’s testimony that appears in a newsletter of the FEA and is available in the original French at: FEA - Fédération Européenne A.I.R.P.L.A.N.E



Mr. Gilles Lorant, reports that on February 12, the US Air Force and the National Guard presented a report on the subject of the UFOs to numerous nations on the consequences of UFO demonstrations on many communities in the United States. This report is regarded as general interest for all industrialized countries; and representatives of several countries were invited to assist with the presentation. Then, at the request of three American senators, a cycle of three meetings followed in the presence of forty representatives of the twenty eight Member States including the Vatican (two nations did not send representatives).



Over these two days, the subject of the UFO was tackled during meetings discussing the causes which can affect the social balance of a nation, and considered the strong probability of economic recession. The attendees were worried about charlatans, religious prophecies and the effects on certain scientists. The meetings were very concerned about social upheaval from continued UFO sightings and the testimonies of individuals claiming to have firsthand knowledge about UFO’s, extraterrestrial life, and future global events. It was reported that adverse public reactions to UFO sightings could have a dramatic economic impact that could lead to recession in some countries.


The UN discussions appeared to match concerns identified in both the 1953 Robertson Panel and the 1961 Brookings Report to the U.S. Congress, over ramifications of UFO reports and the eventual discovery of extraterrestrial life. The year 2009, was raised as the year when an important change in official attitudes concerning the UFO phenomenon could be made. This suggested that the official debunking policy underway since 1953, would be abandoned and more serious study of the UFO phenomenon would occur.


This indicated an important policy shift where the study of UFO’s would be officially encouraged. However, certain global conditions would have to be met for the official opening. Most important appeared to be social stability in G-8 countries and the maintenance of liberal democratic systems in developing nations. Lorant also suggested that an official opening in attitudes would only occur if UFO sightings continued to occur at present levels. This raises the possibility that those presenting information on UFOs/extraterrestrial life deemed to threaten national stability or financial systems, would receive special attention by national security agencies.

The meetings results suggest that an official change in government policy from ‘debunking’ to ‘openness’ concerning UFO’s would lead to official approval to narrowly define study of the UFO phenomenon. Those claiming to have firsthand experience of extraterrestrial life would be targeted as charlatans. The UN meeting thereby suggested continuation of policies aimed at exploiting divisions in the UFO community between researchers advocating a strictly scientific study of the UFO phenomenon, and those wishing to discuss testimonies/documentation concerning extraterrestrial life visiting Earth. Mr. Gilles Lorant’s testimony suggests that governments are being driven to a more open approach to the UFO phenomenon due to the recent increase sightings.

An opening which would take place under two conditions: 1) From here to the end of 2009, that social peace in the G8 countries remains in Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States. (Together, these countries represent about 65% of the world economy.) 2) From here to the end of 2009, that UFO demonstrations persist throughout the world. Moreover, it was discussed what to do if a not aligned nation decided to precede the countries joined together on the officialization of the subject. He states, "The environment was perfectly serious the participants were even implicitly grateful to the presence of "our alien neighbors" in our environment.


Conclusion:The suggestion which was advanced by UN, with the representatives of 28 nations, during these exchanges, is of capital importance for the public recognition of the subject. Thanks to the Newsletter No. 4 of the F.E.A, 25.02.2008 Posted by Jean-Jacques Yvars and Lamar James …

Editor's Note:As I had predicted nearly 10 years ago, we can expect more revelations concerning UFOs and greater pressure on governments to address this issue. Given the poor track record to this point we can almost predict they will continue to mishandle the phenomenon. However the decisions to aggressively ridicule or simple ignore individuals reporting UFO sightings, or those conducting research and disseminating information is coming to an end.

Alberta UFO - United Nations May Recognize Alien UFO Visitations - March 2008

[K-Luv]

Originally Posted by gsoboi

Is anyone familiar with the "Battle of LA" in 1942? here is an offical photo from the LA Times and it appears that the army has spot lights glowing on a glowing saucer shaped object. The army fired at this object be their ammuniation was defelected as if this thing had "shieds" That is what you see in the photo. the ammunition exploding around the object. They fired at this thing for an hour and could not bring it down. The government's later explaination was a weather balloon.

I've heard this story before, is it possible that it was a secret military craft?

You know, one thing that I always found interesting is that flying saucers of the 40's and 50's sort of had a modern art deco design to them. Now, UFO's seem to take on a more updated model that is more in tune with what is going on with science. Basically, the UFO's of the 40's were directly in tune with what was thought (from an artistic point of view) to be considered futuristic and Sci-Fi. Todays UFO's are no different, as they appear to adhere to what would be considered a plausible design for a space craft. If an old, clunky 1940's UFO were to hover over a city today I think that many people would believe that it was man made and maybe laugh at it's antique design; but if something that was dark and sleek and mysterious (like a giant iPhone) hovered over a city then people would flip the heck out.

[Bideshi]

Originally Posted by K-Luv

It would be too easy to make modern film footage look like it was vintage 40's. Also, I seriously doubt that the military would shoot such crappy footage.

It would be almost impossible to stage that footage today. The uniforms are exactly right, even the working fatigues and MP dress. The action doesn't look acted at all. It would take professional (identifiable) actors to pull it off that well and those people are unrecognizable. The hangar looks legit for that era too. To pull off such a hoax would be very costly and where is the return on investment? I say it's genuine.

[goldengrain]

There have been too many sightings by both credible witnesses and by masses of people.

At this point to deny or cover up the existence of these things is what is strange.

It occurs to me that there is some psychological need for certain people to deny the existence of these things, some sort of self-protective device. If they require that security so badly , I don't know if it is humane that we should discourage them.