are UFOs and extraterestrials real? (experience, believe, Christ, science)

[travelmate38]

Originally Posted by goldengrain

Travel, thank you for sharing this. It must have been hard for you. Can you reveal what you meant when you said 'we are them?'

Most people feel negatively about the greys.
I have never seen one, but knew a woman who had.
She was a member of a book club that I attended.

She said she had been abducted by them and they were good, but would always use the identical words and inflection when she said it, and When I questioned her, she could not relay information, but kept up with the 'they are good' garbage.

I asked her if a man abducted her while walking down the street and threw her in the car against her will, would she consider that a good thing? She would act confused when I tried to appeal to her logically about these greys. I said we treat our household pets better than these abducted people are treated by these 'things'.

She was an interesting, intelligent person other than that one topic. She was from Puerto Rico and said there was one area, I think a mountain, that had a reputation for strange occurrances.

I do not think all aliens should be thought of in the same way. Isn't that racism? When I think of aliens, my first thoughts go to the Nordic types, and I do not think they are very fond, at all, of the greys.
So, when there is talk of we being creations of aliens, I think of them. It is they who we most closely resemble. They walk amongst us and are not noticed.

Now, just for fun, I could envision a scenerio in which the greys are 'creators' and the Nords the rebellious angels who came to earth to help earthlings.

I have a thought that the Nords are fearful of the greys, too.

It could also be the reason why the government does not want to discuss them.

But, no facts, just speculation - and when there are no facts and things are happening, all you have left is speculation!

Most people just think you're looking for attention when you tell your story. Trust me, this is no attention I want. I told my story, as best as I can recall and folks can choose to believe it or not. I know these beings are out there and so do many other people. I know what they told me. The sense I had of them was an evil one. Although they did not do evil things to us like you might see in a horror movie, being controlled outside your will, leaves a very impacting impression. They sense of "evil" could have just been from my own interpretation of things. They are not "bubbly friendly creatures" they are very "matter of fact, to the point, seemingly cold, and callas." (if you will) That could also be why I got the feelings about them that I did. At the same time there seemed to be some sort of unexplainable connection to them and the telepathic communication was something no real words can describe. The communication was as clear and identifiable as a vocal conversation, yet no words are spoken and no "voice" is heard inside your brain. I can't really explain it.

The other immediate impression I got is that their physical bodies are not as you see. I think they are beings inside some sort of flesh appearing, biological suit. For lack of a better definition. Their eyes are not real in my opinion, but some sort of cover to hide themselves and prevent you from seeing who they are. I got the feeling that if I could see behind those black eyes, it would have scared me beyond comprehension. There was a sense of something dark behind those eyes.

Whoever and whatever they are, they are here for a reason. Time will tell if it is a good or bad one. And according to what they told me, we will know they exists and where we come from by the end of this year.

[gsoboi]

Originally Posted by travelmate38

Most people just think you're looking for attention when you tell your story. Trust me, this is no attention I want. I told my story, as best as I can recall and folks can choose to believe it or not. I know these beings are out there and so do many other people. I know what they told me. The sense I had of them was an evil one. Although they did not do evil things to us like you might see in a horror movie, being controlled outside your will, leaves a very impacting impression. They sense of "evil" could have just been from my own interpretation of things. They are not "bubbly friendly creatures" they are very "matter of fact, to the point, seemingly cold, and callas." (if you will) That could also be why I got the feelings about them that I did. At the same time there seemed to be some sort of unexplainable connection to them and the telepathic communication was something no real words can describe. The communication was as clear and identifiable as a vocal conversation, yet no words are spoken and no "voice" is heard inside your brain. I can't really explain it.

The other immediate impression I got is that their physical bodies are not as you see. I think they are beings inside some sort of flesh appearing, biological suit. For lack of a better definition. Their eyes are not real in my opinion, but some sort of cover to hide themselves and prevent you from seeing who they are. I got the feeling that if I could see behind those black eyes, it would have scared me beyond comprehension. There was a sense of something dark behind those eyes.

Whoever and whatever they are, they are here for a reason. Time will tell if it is a good or bad one. And according to what they told me, we will know they exists and where we come from by the end of this year.

Thanks for sharing. So are these being interdemensional? Do they come from another time or what?

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by travelmate38

Most people just think you're looking for attention when you tell your story. Trust me, this is no attention I want. I told my story, as best as I can recall and folks can choose to believe it or not. I know these beings are out there and so do many other people. I know what they told me. The sense I had of them was an evil one. Although they did not do evil things to us like you might see in a horror movie, being controlled outside your will, leaves a very impacting impression. They sense of "evil" could have just been from my own interpretation of things. They are not "bubbly friendly creatures" they are very "matter of fact, to the point, seemingly cold, and callas." (if you will) That could also be why I got the feelings about them that I did. At the same time there seemed to be some sort of unexplainable connection to them and the telepathic communication was something no real words can describe. The communication was as clear and identifiable as a vocal conversation, yet no words are spoken and no "voice" is heard inside your brain. I can't really explain it.

The other immediate impression I got is that their physical bodies are not as you see. I think they are beings inside some sort of flesh appearing, biological suit. For lack of a better definition. Their eyes are not real in my opinion, but some sort of cover to hide themselves and prevent you from seeing who they are. I got the feeling that if I could see behind those black eyes, it would have scared me beyond comprehension. There was a sense of something dark behind those eyes.

Whoever and whatever they are, they are here for a reason. Time will tell if it is a good or bad one. And according to what they told me, we will know they exists and where we come from by the end of this year.

Your dialogue makes me think of animals which we experiment on and then sacrifice to see results. Those animals must look upon us in that way. Some are household pets, family members. I have heard they try to get these animals from pounds, because they are often house broken, used to human handling, and just hoping some human will pick them out to rescue them.

We, humans, are not exactly innocent.
They say what goes around comes around.
I hope this is not the case.

You have made a contribution, about them inhabiting makeshift bodies, that I had not heard before, but I believe you.

I rarely mention this, but yes, I have had thoughts in my head that did not originate from me. But nothing negative, fortunately. Some were people close to me who passed on.

It's strange, that we probably have greater capabilities than we think we do. I'm glad that they are not harming you and your son. I know this is little consolation, but you must realize they must have been around us for a very long time, that you are not alone.

If they are so much more powerful than us, it stands to reason that there are others stronger than they.

[coosjoaquin]

I'm actually surprised that If aliens have been to earth, we haven't been blown off to kingdom come.

[northsider]

Originally Posted by goldengrain

North,

If someone HAD seen them, I would think they would have to be mentally unhinged to tell you about it.

Why not? Is this not a discussion board?

You don't have a mind that is open to these things to begin with.

Oh you know me.... when or where did we meet?

Why are you wasting time with we, the deluded, on this site?

Oh, so should I agree with everything? If posters agreed wih everything people wrote here it would make for very boring posts.

Sorry to hear that you feel you're deluded.

You obviously believe we are not just a bit unbalanced

I didn't say that..... you did.

Why are you wasting your time with us

I enjoy debate. Am I really wasting my time with you?

Sorry, I thought I was in a discusson with open minded people.

[AliceT]

So if there were aliens and no coverup, it was out in the open and everyone talked about it, what then? How would this be any different from anything else we can't control?

Is there or isn't there? What difference does it make? Would you alter your lifestyle because of it? Planning to be a stowaway on one of those discs? Looking for details on when and where the next one will occur?

If aliens really did crash into our planet and it turned out that we couldn't communicate with them, what then? For all we know, they may think dolphins rule the planet and we are little more than insects. Would you really want to know what their intentions regarding us is?

[travelmate38]

Originally Posted by AliceT

So if there were aliens and no coverup, it was out in the open and everyone talked about it, what then? How would this be any different from anything else we can't control?

Is there or isn't there? What difference does it make? Would you alter your lifestyle because of it? Planning to be a stowaway on one of those discs? Looking for details on when and where the next one will occur?

If aliens really did crash into our planet and it turned out that we couldn't communicate with them, what then? For all we know, they may think dolphins rule the planet and we are little more than insects. Would you really want to know what their intentions regarding us is?

You're missing the point. Look at human beings and the advancements we have made over just the last 50 years in science. More specifically the last 20 years. Then ask yourself if we continue to progress scientifically at the current rate with no major interruption where will we be as humans in 50 years, 100 years, 500 years, 1 million years, 1 billion years???

I have clue for you. In 50 years we will be able to create life from DNA sequencing. New species, recreate life of all forms, harvest and grow new body parts, organs, etc... In 100 years we will be able to interact man made computing systems with biological ones, perhaps with no difference between the two. In 200-500 years we will be able to upload, or download the human brain and all it's existence into a new host, I.E humans may achive immortality. These beings are far advanced and have already overcome these obsticales. They can create life on planets suitable to host life, just as we will likely be able to do in many years to come. We will be able to create life, from non-life form. All this is assuming we can escape the nuclear era and not destroy ourselves and our planet. Once we get past this phase, the sky is the limit, literally.

I believe the alien visitors see us on a path of self-destruction and are here to stop this from happening.

[coosjoaquin]

Originally Posted by travelmate38

I believe the alien visitors see us on a path of self-destruction and are here to stop this from happening.

Why?

[Huckleberry3911948]

ET is ok. i have nothing to hide. i have lived my life open and in public.
i can associate with anybody from anywhere i want.
by the way have you met my new friend.


chalk pastel
Bunky 2005
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[northsider]

Originally Posted by travelmate38

In 50 years we will be able to create life from DNA sequencing. New species, recreate life of all forms, harvest and grow new body parts, organs, etc... In 100 years we will be able to interact man made computing systems with biological ones, perhaps with no difference between the two. In 200-500 years we will be able to upload, or download the human brain and all it's existence into a new host, I.E humans may achive immortality. These beings are far advanced and have already overcome these obsticales. They can create life on planets suitable to host life. <snip>I believe the alien visitors see us on a path of self-destruction and are here to stop this from happening.

Can you please explain how you know all of the above?

Thank you in anticipation.