are UFOs and extraterestrials real? (bible, sunday, believe, service)

[Iluvmycountry]

Originally Posted by travelmate38

There was a news story that came out today. Although it might slip under the radar for many, it is the begginning of a series of reports. These reports will lead to the disclosure of the true origins of life on earth by years end. See if you can find the news story. It might seem subtle to many here, but read between the lines. It is a pre-curser to what is coming and coming very soon.

Here is a clue. The story originates only 42 light years from earth and is a remarkable and key discovery.

I found this today, don't know if its what you are talking about or not.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/17/sc...ss&oref=slogin

[coosjoaquin]

Originally Posted by Iluvmycountry

I found this today, don't know if its what you are talking about or not.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/17/sc...ss&oref=slogin

Aye, thats what i found when I googled "42 light years away".

Found: super-Earth trio just 42 light years away | theage.com.au



I do hope Travelmate didn't mean these because the other planets have a period of around 4 days and 10 days so I calculate that the other planets are at a distance of:

6.67x10^-11(0.8x2x10^30)(4x60x24x60)(20.4x60x24x60)/(4)(pi)^2=6.9x10^9m
and
6.67x10^-11(0.8x2x10^30)(4x60x24x60)(10x60x24x60)/(4)(pi)^2=12.6x10^9m

So they are at a distance of around 7, 12.6 and 20 million kilometers. Theres just no way that life can form at temperatures that would melt your face off in less than a second.

[gsoboi]

Read what a former NASA engineer (Clark C. McClelland) has to say about UFOs and "the truth"

The Stargate Chronicles

"Recently, former NASA astronaut and moon walker of Apollo 14, Dr. Edgar Mitchell, came forth with his belief that UFOs do most probably exist. Dr. Mitchell also stated he has spoken to several highly placed people, apparently in Washington, DC and/or the Pentagon, who said the famous Roswell UFO crash did actually happen, and that indeed, the craft was of alien origin. In company with Dr. Mitchell, other famous NASA astronauts have stated their positive belief"

Astronaut Ed Mitchell said this

"Mitchell, who landed on the moon with Alan B. Shepard, said a "cabal" of insiders stopped briefing presidents about extraterrestrials after President Kennedy"

Astronaut Edgar Mitchell

again more evidence that JFK's death had something to do about him spilling the beans on UFOs. Remember JFKs mistress Marylin Monroe? She was about to call an international press conference to "tell something that would shock the world" then the next day she mysteriously died.

[gsoboi]

Former Canadian Minister of Defence, Hon. Paul Hellyer says this:


"UFOs, are as real as the airplanes that fly over your head."

"The United States military are preparing weapons which could be used against the aliens, and they could get us into an intergalactic war without us ever having any warning. The time has come to lift the veil of secrecy, and let the truth emerge, so there can be a real and informed debate, about one of the most important problems facing our planet today."

"To turn us in the direction of re-unification with the rest of creation Alfred Lambremont Webre is proposing a ’Decade of Contact’ - an ’era of openness, public hearings, public funded research, and education about extraterrestrial reality.’ That could just be the antidote the world needs to end its greed-driven, power-centered madness."

A United Nations Decade of Contact has four Objectives:

(1) DISCLOSURE - Governmental disclosure related to Extraterrestrial Presence
(2) DECADE OF CONTACT - Public funding of a 10 year process of public education and research about the Extraterrestrial Presence
(3) DISARMAMENT - A permanent ban on all space-based weapons and warfare in space through a Space Preservation Treaty Conference
(4) DIPLOMACY - Public Interest UNITED NATIONS Diplomacy with ethical Off-Planet Cultures now visiting Earth.

[travelmate38]

How do I know? Since I can remember and since my "visit" I've always known. We come from "them." There are literally millions, if not billions of life supporting, earth-like planets in the universe.

It is really not even a secret at all, to know we are being visited by mutiple Alien life forms on this planet. Every day, more and more top military and government officials around the world are breaking their silence. We even have top religious leaders doing the same now.

In a nut shell, you ask what do I know, and were do we and all life come from on this planet? From them. Just as they do now, if we survive our own selves, we will soon be creating life forms and traveling the universe. Many think we already can and do.

The current life as we know it on earth is about to change and most will not agree with it, but it is coming. Technology will be huge, human life will not. Nuff said......For now.

[cncracer]

You guys are something else. I agree you have life on other planets, and maybe billions of life forms. I still don’t buy into the visits and all the cover-up stories, but it fun to read the tales.

[gsoboi]

The people that dont believe will have the hardest time coping with the reality when it is revealed

[nebulous1]

Originally Posted by gsoboi

We dont know what their motives are. Obviously the beings themselves dont want us to know on a mass scale. Alot of witness accounts when cattle mutilations happen is that right before it happens people have seen weird lights in the sky. You are from Montana. As a matter of fact alot of cattle mutilations have happened in Montana.

Here are characteristics of the mutilations:

-The removal of eyes, udders and sexual organs

-The removal of the anus to a depth of around 12 inches

-The removal of the tongue and/or lips

-The removal of one ear

-The stripping of hide and flesh from the jaw and the area directly beneath the ear

-The removal of soft organs from the lower body

-The presence of incisions and cuts across the body that appear to have been made by a surgical instrument

-Unexplained damage to remaining organs, but no sign of damage to the surrounding area

-A lack of predation signs (including teethmarks, tearing of the skin or flesh, or animal footprints) on or around the carcass.
Lack of scavenging

Other signs:

-Unusual restlessness among surviving animals

-Refusal of predators and scavengers to feed on the mutilated carcass

-Strange marks or 'post holes' on the ground around the mutilated animal

-Unusual odors. Commonly described as being medicinal or surgical in nature.

A major cattle mutilation case happened in 1978 in Dulce, New Mexico, That just happens to be the town where it has been rumored that there is a secret underground base that has extraterrestrial activity. Los Alamos is nearby too. Its been rumored that they have been involved with reverse engineering of UFOs.

As far as the cave painting, It looks like the documentary gave it bright colors to inhance the image for the video. You can kinda tell that.

another cave painting

If this was true, we have a lot to fear.
Usually dominant, stronger, smarter civilizations have taken over lesser ones and took their resources. They justified it because they could do it.

Such as Manifest Destiny.

So for all the people who want aliens to come here, I say we should be setting ourselves up to deal with them if they come, because they might not be coming here to help us. They might be coming to harvest us, or like that Twilight Zone "To Serve Man."

[gsoboi]

Originally Posted by nebulous1

If this was true, we have a lot to fear.
Usually dominant, stronger, smarter civilizations have taken over lesser ones and took their resources. They justified it because they could do it.

Such as Manifest Destiny.

So for all the people who want aliens to come here, I say we should be setting ourselves up to deal with them if they come, because they might not be coming here to help us. They might be coming to harvest us, or like that Twilight Zone "To Serve Man."

I think the government really dont know what they want. According to the high up in the government who have come out, some of these extraterrestrial have not been truthful. Its the unknown that causes panic and that maybe why the government wont come clean with this to the public. The government doesnt like to admit when it doesnt have control of the situation. I mean if this were to just all come out, it would change life as we know it. The world will never be the seem and that may be a good thing or a bad thing. It just depends on how this new reality affects each individual person. If the etraterrestrial presence proved certain religions to be false just think of all the people that would admit themselves to the hospital for severe depression. But there seems to be a link with these extraterrtrials and the future end time destruction that will kill many worldwide. That seems to be what travelmate is indicating. If thats true and the government knows whats coming, then I can understand why they are keeping this secret.

when you see ancient cave paintings like below that look identical to the description of the typical grey alien, you have to begin to take the subject of UFOs seriously. Instead of just having your mind already made up and saying there is no way aliens are visiting earth, you need to research yourselves.




Book of Ezekiel in the Bible

I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north-- and immense cloud with flashing lighting and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was that of a man, but each of them had four faces and four wings.

Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. Under their wings on their four sides they had the hands of a man. All four of them had faces and wings, and their wings touched one another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved. (1:4-9)

Their faces looked like this: Each of the four had the face of a man, and on the right side each had the face of a lion, and on the left the face of an ox; each also had the face of an eagle. Such were their faces. Their wings were spread out upward; each had two wings, one touching the wing of another creature on either side, and two wings covering its body. Each one went straight ahead. Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, without turning as they went. The appearance of the living creatures was like burning coals of fire or like torches; it was bright, and lightning flashed out of it. The creatures sped back and forth like flashes of lightning. (1:10-14)

As I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the ground beside each creature with its four faces. This was the appearance and structure of the wheels: They sparkled like chrysolite, and all four looked alike. Each appeared to be made like a wheel within a wheel. As they moved, they would go in any one of the four directions the creatures faced; the wheels did not turn about as the creatures went. their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around. (1:15-18)

When the living creatures moved, the wheels beside them moved; and when the living creatures rose from the ground, the wheels also rose. Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, and the wheels would rise along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels... When the creatures moved, I heard the sound of their wings, like the roar of the Almighty, like the tumult of an army

Lets break it down:

1) Ezekiel saw glowing metal in the sky,
certainly UFOs are some sort of metal and they glow at night.

2) inside the glowing metal Ezekiel saw four living creatures
sound like the description of extraterrstrials

3) Ezekiel describes the glowing metal as wheels
the shape of UFOs are round like wheels

4) Ezekiel decribes the movement of these creatures and wheels as speeding back and forth like flashes of lightning.
The movement of UFOs are rapid zig zag, back and forth movements that seems to fly as fast as lightning.

5) Ezekiel describes them as wheel within a wheel
UFOs are described as a saucer within a saucer. The outer saucer spinning counterclockwise.

6) Ezekiel says the rims of the wheels has eyes around it.
The rims of UFOs have port holes which would have looked like eyes to Ezekiel.

7) Ezekiel says the spirit of the creatures were in the wheels
Governement officials that have come out have describe the craft as almost being living as if it were part of the extraterrestrials themselves. There are no buttons or anything visible that controls these craft.

8) Ezekiel also describes these creatures as having the appearance of man
Ezekiel uses the word creature so they werent human but yet the looked similar to man. That is the description of humanoid extraterrestrials. They look almost human.

The Book of Ezekiel is the CLEAREST description of a UFO encounter in the entire Bible. Its clear as crystal yet people want to overlook it. Its not a coincidence that scripture concerning UFOs and beings coming down from the skies are never preached in sunday services across the nation. This proves that its not just a modern day scifi imagination and in fact humans having been seeing these things for thousands of years.

[coosjoaquin]

Originally Posted by travelmate38

How do I know? Since I can remember and since my "visit" I've always known. We come from "them." There are literally millions, if not billions of life supporting, earth-like planets in the universe.

It is really not even a secret at all, to know we are being visited by mutiple Alien life forms on this planet. Every day, more and more top military and government officials around the world are breaking their silence. We even have top religious leaders doing the same now.

In a nut shell, you ask what do I know, and were do we and all life come from on this planet? From them. Just as they do now, if we survive our own selves, we will soon be creating life forms and traveling the universe. Many think we already can and do.

The current life as we know it on earth is about to change and most will not agree with it, but it is coming. Technology will be huge, human life will not. Nuff said......For now.

I'm still wondering what you meant regarding the 42 ly away comment