are UFOs and extraterestrials real? (ghost, spirits, bible, Israel)

[Fred314X]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

If you take the time to study the contact stories, you will discover that those who control the UFO's and abduct others have a rather evil side to them. John Keel, who is one of the top UFO researchers has found that the more he got involved in the research of UFO contact stories, the more he was drawn into the world of Demonology. The purpose for the UFOs is to give the world an explanation when millions of people vanish from the planet during the rapture of the church. Years ago, I read occult writings which speak of a future time. The writings stated that when the man of peace comes, he will remove all those that do not support his government. It was stated, that they would be removed by the ships in the sky. The Bible tells us, that just before the Anti Christ appears, God will remove the church. The Anti Christ will need to counter what God does, so he will state that the people who vanished, did so by his power, and not by any act of God. This will all happen just before the world goes into the great tribulation. The world is now being preprogramed to accept the idea of alien abductions. That's why you hear of such stories today. They are preparing the ground work for this future explanation. And in the future, this will all seem reasonable to the population that remains on planet earth. Because people are being programed to believe this today.

So you don't think it's possible that there might be intelligent life existing elsewhere in the universe that has nothing to do with a particular religion here on Earth?

We send satellites into space to gather scientific information--mainly because our particular race hasn't developed intergalactic travel. There's no reason why some other civilization couldn't be rather ahead of us, and is engaged in voyages of scientific exploration. Plain and simple, without religious implications.

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by Fred314X

So you don't think it's possible that there might be intelligent life existing elsewhere in the universe that has nothing to do with a particular religion here on Earth?

We send satellites into space to gather scientific information--mainly because our particular race hasn't developed intergalactic travel. There's no reason why some other civilization couldn't be rather ahead of us, and is engaged in voyages of scientific exploration. Plain and simple, without religious implications.

I have no idea what is out in the universe. Yet based on what I see of these beings. I believe they are here to confuse, and retrain the people of earth to believe a great future lie, and imbrace a great deception. John Keel, who is not even a Christian has come to that same conclusion. And it appears their very nature is one of evil.

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

If you take the time to study the contact stories, you will discover that those who control the UFO's and abduct others have a rather evil side to them. John Keel, who is one of the top UFO researchers has found that the more he got involved in the research of UFO contact stories, the more he was drawn into the world of Demonology. The purpose for the UFOs is to give the world an explanation when millions of people vanish from the planet during the rapture of the church. Years ago, I read occult writings which speak of a future time. The writings stated that when the man of peace comes, he will remove all those that do not support his government. It was stated, that they would be removed by the ships in the sky. The Bible tells us, that just before the Anti Christ appears, God will remove the church. The Anti Christ will need to counter what God does, so he will state that the people who vanished, did so by his power, and not by any act of God. This will all happen just before the world goes into the great tribulation. The world is now being preprogramed to accept the idea of alien abductions. That's why you hear of such stories today. They are preparing the ground work for this future explanation. And in the future, this will all seem reasonable to the population that remains on planet earth. Because people are being programed to believe this today.

Sometimes we see evil into anything strange because things we do not control frighten us.
There are those who were in crisis and say they believe they were rescued by people with abilities greater than our own who came, responded to the crisis, and just left. Some say they are aliens and others claim they are angels. Perhaps they are one and the same.
I think, just like people, some are good and some not. Some think of the rest of existent life when making decisions and some think only of themselves. If you observe pollution and the environment and perhaps our eating habits, many of us would not score favorably on such a test.
We pretty much do what is best for us without great care for other life forms. I sincerely hope that aliens, when they do reveal themselves, are better than us. Some obviously are not, but how can we point a finger at them when we are just as bad?

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by Fred314X

So you don't think it's possible that there might be intelligent life existing elsewhere in the universe that has nothing to do with a particular religion here on Earth?

We send satellites into space to gather scientific information--mainly because our particular race hasn't developed intergalactic travel. There's no reason why some other civilization couldn't be rather ahead of us, and is engaged in voyages of scientific exploration. Plain and simple, without religious implications.

Sometimes our selection of a religion or a god is a reflection of our trying to come to terms with our own quirks - things we don't want to face in ourselves.

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

I have no idea what is out in the universe. Yet based on what I see of these beings. I believe they are here to confuse, and retrain the people of earth to believe a great future lie, and imbrace a great deception. John Keel, who is not even a Christian has come to that same conclusion. And it appears their very nature is one of evil.

Do you speak of ALL aliens, or just one species? I am sure we have not experienced ALL, so how can it be fair to form an opinion of them?

It is similar to making a comment, pro or con, about Hispanics while there really are multiple cultures that fall under that umbrella, having many diverse characteristics.

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

I have no idea what is out in the universe. Yet based on what I see of these beings. I believe they are here to confuse, and retrain the people of earth to believe a great future lie, and imbrace a great deception. John Keel, who is not even a Christian has come to that same conclusion. And it appears their very nature is one of evil.

In some literature certain aliens are deceptively similar to us in appearance. How do we know that Mr. Keel is not one of 'them' and planting disinformation?

Really, I just don't understand making a blanket statement about masses of beings. We do not do that about each other.

The 'greys' (sometimes green?) - there is even speculation that they are some sort of created creatures roaming about exploring. They certainly seem that way, from what I hear.

I don't like what I hear about them, but I don't project that on all aliens. What if some alien landed in the midst of a concentration camp and projected that all of humanity were that cruel and callous to the suffering of others?

Try to keep a level head about this.

[ShepsMom]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

I have no idea what is out in the universe. Yet based on what I see of these beings. I believe they are here to confuse, and retrain the people of earth to believe a great future lie, and imbrace a great deception. John Keel, who is not even a Christian has come to that same conclusion. And it appears their very nature is one of evil.

But we can also say, that these beings, you referring to, alien creatures that descended from the skies with bright lights, could have been easily seeing as gods of your bible. Back in Bronze age, someone name Campbell, said: 'Look up, there are gods up in the skies! Run for your lives! They're coming to take me away..." hehe!

Prove me wrong!

Your "evil nature" conclusion is pure assumption, based on your believe, nothing else.

[ocpaul20]

Lets not get caught up in an evil vs good discussion as I am sure there are many such discussions already in this religion forum.

Alot of people around the world would be jobless.

(if we had alien technology) I dont think that is quite correct. Yes, certainly, the profile of the jobs would change but imagine if you had cheap energy then a lot of goods and services would be cheaper to produce. Sure the markets for coal, oil, gas etc would collapse, but other markets based on the new technologies would emerge. In the end, we would not have the price fixing done by the big oil companies and their empires would collapse (hopefully).

I wonder how news of aliens will get out. Maybe it will be an official 'leak' to the newspapers as I cannot see how it would get out any other way. It is said that the TV, newspapers and media are all controlled by the ones who dont want this to get out, and I can see how it would make sense to control the sources of the public news.

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by goldengrain

Sometimes we see evil into anything strange because things we do not control frighten us.
There are those who were in crisis and say they believe they were rescued by people with abilities greater than our own who came, responded to the crisis, and just left. Some say they are aliens and others claim they are angels. Perhaps they are one and the same.
I think, just like people, some are good and some not. Some think of the rest of existent life when making decisions and some think only of themselves. If you observe pollution and the environment and perhaps our eating habits, many of us would not score favorably on such a test.
We pretty much do what is best for us without great care for other life forms. I sincerely hope that aliens, when they do reveal themselves, are better than us. Some obviously are not, but how can we point a finger at them when we are just as bad?

Well they are one in the same. You have angles from God, and then you have fallen angles. It is the fallen angles that are here to convince you they are from another advanced world. They are evil, because they are the one's that are involoved in the abductions, and they are the one's who preform the strange experiments on their unwilling subjects, and do so without pain relievers. The fallen angles have no hope of salvation, where as we do. Their whole purpose is to deceive us, and to convince us that there is no God. And that is one of the reasons why numerous people around the world believe the only hope for mankind is for the aliens to come and save us from ourselves. Our only hope is in the power found in Jesus Christ.

Those who claim they have been contacted by aliens, seem to reveal a message that is completely oppsite to the one found in the Bible. Consider the link below.

UFO's and ALIENS: THE FALSE GOSPEL PART TWO

[sanspeur]

Wow, Campbell you believe in all kinds of strange stuff. How about voodoo, ghosts, fairies or witches do you think they exist too? Do you think crop circles are messages?....I don't want to nit pick but I've noticed that you always spell angels.."angles" Is there a reason?