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05-09-2008, 09:31 PM
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Sorry to be blunt but if God hated homosexuality then he wouldn't have made people gay and lesbian in a first place. Just like a heterosexual person doesn't choose to be attracted to people of the opposite sex, homosexuals don't choose to be attracted to people of the same sex either. I myself am bisexual and never chose to be attracted to people of both sexes, I just am. That's how the good Lord made me and that it how I will be until the day I die. I can tell you first hand that being attracted to people of the same sex as you can be insanely frustrating and awkward at times so to say that anyone would choose to do so is quite frankly ridiculous. Fundamentalist Christians can spend the rest of eternity telling the world that anyone who isn't straight chooses to be that way but that will never make it so. They will never be gay themselves so they will never know.
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Sorry dude but God did not make anyone gay. At least not the one true God who created the heavens and the earth. The one who created man. He did not create anyone to be gay. That goes against his nature and his holiness. When sin entered the world, thus came the fall and homosexuality is only one of many sins that we encounter.
I'm a recovering homosexual. I was gay for many years and now lead a heterosexual lifestyle. My faith is stronger than my desire to be with men. While it has not always been that way, through Christ I can do all things.
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05-09-2008, 09:35 PM
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I think its definetly a sin!
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05-09-2008, 09:36 PM
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You gave me four God reason those and as you clearly have read i want one non god reason.
Why is it immoral, and man isnt made to reproduce. We make our own destiny. Now give me 4 reason why its immoral, and because its all about sex isnt one as i awnsered because homosexauls love eachother as much i love my GF.
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05-09-2008, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by freedom
It goes against the system that God made.
Has zero chance of producing fruit.
THe body was not designed to have exit only areas infiltrated.
It is based on selfish lustful energies.
godspeed,
freedom
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Sex is human and is not a bad thing as many examples in bible have shown.
Homosexuals love each other as much as heterosexuals do.
How is this Selfish this act is a love for eachother as sex is.
You are not one to restrict love
I must admit this is getting me angry, I'm going to start bashing people
Simple Christains arnt made fun of for being christain in america 70% of people are christain here.
Ok all of you hasn't given me 1 good reason why homosexuals are bad other then god said so. Which you cant prove and you don't know
So your basing your whole arguments.
2nd homosexuals actually might love each other your telling them their love is not right and thats wrong. All because a BOOK says its bad when there is almost 200 books like it.
Not one of you have gave me one reason other than the book said so.
Plz don't answer without giving me a reason, other than god said so.
Because your god has slaughtered people for religion and massacred cities. Killed the very man that freed his people. He is not moral at all, one who cant follow his one rule is not perfect, one who must kill is not a god, one who requires worship, deserves none and one who will watch as people die, when they have the power to stop it, is the one that should die.
Its grade school people, If you see someone being bullied what do you do? you help and stop the burlier.
I have no clue why you people worship such god with blood on his hands as it says in the old testament.
However now give me a reason why homosexuals are bad with out the word god, bible, jesus, holy spirt, the book, religion, or religion views.
Your saying this as your sole proof, it is saying you are not a free thinker, you are saying i will do what one says no matter what he says. You will not question, and you believe in ignorance is blessed.
In fact your admitting to it, by saying i don't care what he says are what he does, by not asking why, or thinking is this really moral, is this really what is right. Look in your heart and find the truth, and i'm not talking about god i'm talking about morals.
SO ASK YOURSELF. WHY IS HOMOSEXUALS Immoral, what have they done wrong, who are they hurting?
If your only reason is the bible please don't answer because I don't care what a close minded man says, because your view has no meaning.
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05-09-2008, 09:56 PM
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Simple Christains arnt made fun of for being christain in america 70% of people are christain here.
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70% of people may claim to be a Christian, but that doesn't make them a true, biblical Christian. There's a world of difference.
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Ok all of you hasn't given me 1 good reason why homosexuals are bad other then god said so. Which you cant prove and you don't know
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The "proof" argument is getting old. You can't prove that the Bible is NOT true. When you can, I'll stop quoting from it.
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Plz don't answer without giving me a reason, other than god said so.
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What else would you expect a Christian to base their answer on if not God and the Bible? It's ridiculous and foolish to expect anything else.
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Because your god has slaughtered people for religion and massacred cities. Killed the very man that freed his people. He is not moral at all, one who cant follow his one rule is not perfect, one who must kill is not a god, one who requires worship, deserves none and one who will watch as people die, when they have the power to stop it, is the one that should die.
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It's clear you don't understand scripture. If you did, you would understand the deaths in the Bible.
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Its grade school people, If you see someone being bullied what do you do? you help and stop the burlier.
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Are you as quick to help defend Christians when homosexuals are the bullies towards them? You can't claim to defend those being bullied unless you defend everyone that's being bullied. If you don't, then you aren't a defender of those being bullied, you're a defender of what you believe is right only. Which, then, makes you like Christians who defend their faith against homosexuality.
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I have no clue why you people worship such god with blood on his hands as it says in the old testament.
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You're right. You don't have a clue. Ask me a specific question and I'll give you the answer so you can try to understand.
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However now give me a reason why homosexuals are bad with out the word god, bible, jesus, holy spirt, the book, religion, or religion views.
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You're in a religious forum asking Christians if they believe homosexuality is an abomination but you don't want them to answer in any way that has to do with their Christianity. This is an oxymoron and not very well thought out.
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Look in your heart and find the truth, and i'm not talking about god i'm talking about morals.
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Ok, if you're such a free-thinker, then answer this. You believe in morals? Who set the moral standard? There are no such thing as morals if you don't have a morality giver. This is God. This is why Christians believe God when He says homosexuality is an abomination. See? We've thought about this and haven't followed Him blindly.
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SO ASK YOURSELF. WHY IS HOMOSEXUALS Immoral, what have they done wrong, who are they hurting?
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Ultimately, they are hurting themselves.
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If your only reason is the bible please don't answer because I don't care what a close minded man says, because your view has no meaning.
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If you don't want "Bible" and "God" answers, then stop asking Christians this question and ask an atheist who is against homosexuality. You won't hear the words "Bible" or "God" at all. It's foolish to ask a Christian what they believe and then reject the answer because you got what you asked for.
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05-09-2008, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by .....think
You gave me four God reason those and as you clearly have read i want one non god reason.
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THEN STOP ASKING CHRISTIANS WHY THEY BELIEVE HOMOSEXUALITY IS AN ABOMINATION! WHAT OTHER ANSWER WOULD YOU EXPECT FROM A CHRISTIAN WHEN GOD AND THE BIBLE ARE THE BASIS FOR THEIR BELIEFS???
You can't seem to grasp this concept.
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Why is it immoral, and man isnt made to reproduce. We make our own destiny. Now give me 4 reason why its immoral, and because its all about sex isnt one as i awnsered because homosexauls love eachother as much i love my GF.
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Round and round he goes, where he stops nobody knows.
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05-09-2008, 10:07 PM
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Your proving my point. You people cant name one reason why homosexuality is bad other than the bible says so. That bloody book needs to be burned no offence but its has done way to much to this world. If Jesus was real he screwed up. Big time, do you think he made this world to hate a some because there different.
Atheist arn't against homosexuality. we are tolerant of almost everyone (not fanatics)
Your proving my point that christians are close minded. You said your self you will only listen to the bible. somthing that is man made and you dont know is real.
If your saying that no matter what i say or what happens you want think other wise please just leave.
I'm glad that atheist pop is growing with Buddhist and hinduism, while Christians are going down.
Religion has brought intolerance as you have clearly shown for no good reason
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05-09-2008, 10:10 PM
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LOL SO YOU ADMIT THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH HOMOSEXUALITY OTHER THAN THE BIBLE SAYS. THAN WHY ARE YOU FORCING YOUR WAYS ON OTHERS.
this is pissing me off as you can see
caps are for yelling hehe'
YOU HAVE NO RIGHT. FORCING YOUR WAYS ON OTHERS IS NOT WHAT JESUS WANTS IS IT!
You should look down at yourself its not the homosexuals who are just committing an act of love its you who is committing an act of hate.
who is the one committing the sin here
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05-09-2008, 10:15 PM
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I have no problem with whatever a christian believes. The problem begins with dictating that belief on others when they are doing no harm to anyone. Why can't christians mind their own business?
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05-09-2008, 10:18 PM
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I got it
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Originally Posted by .....think
Sex is human and is not a bad thing as many examples in bible have shown.
Homosexuals love each other as much as heterosexuals do.
SO ASK YOURSELF. WHY IS HOMOSEXUALS Immoral, what have they done wrong, who are they hurting?
If your only reason is the bible please don't answer because I don't care what a close minded man says, because your view has no meaning.
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Let me see if I can address this without saying the things you have requested not to be said. The human race has inherent moral fiber, right? It's there, in all of us. Even as little children we know when we've done wrong, even when no one is there to point it out. No matter what we believe or don't believe, we can all agree that the moral code is deeply ingrained. As we grow up, we then begin to be told or have to be reminded what's right and wrong because the moral code begins to do battle with peer pressure, outside influences, television, advertising, crime, greed, war, lust and any other thing we have been told is wrong.
So, the question is....where does that moral code come from? Why is there a battle going on between that code and worldly things? Why do you suppose that moral code is there to begin with? Why have it, when it's just easier to do whatever you want and live however you want? I mean, child molesting wouldn't be wrong, murder would be fine, blackmail, stealing, bullying (as you mentioned) is standard growing up procedure without consequences, straight pornography, gay pornography and child pornography is on every channel on tv, as well as whatever most average people with a strong moral code find morally reprehensible.
How did I do? And I ask again, where in the WORLD does that pesky moral code come from? I say that it's not even of this world.
Reps, please. 
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