Christians: do you believe homosexuality is an abomination? (Jehovah's Witness, Mormon, protestants)

[Tricky D]

Originally Posted by Simple Living

No, you mean it's irrelevant to you. Big surprise.

The mayority of the western world who have experienced the Age of Enlightenment disagree with you.

Aren't you a bigot towards Christians? If you say no, you're a hypocrite.

I am only a bigot if the things that I've said about Christians are untrue.
Or that there are no Christian bigots.

The fact that many Christians believe that they can't be bigots because they are Christians often causes them to accuse me of being a bigot, because they can't wrap it around their heads that some Christian behaviour (like being anti-gay) actually is factual proof of bigotry.

[nay624]

Jesus does not hate the sinner.....just the sin.

sin is sin. guilty of one guilty of them all....

Jesus is salvation from sin.....
Jesus is not hate, He is love.......His perfect Love casts out Fear...
people hate...its in our nature...so is sin....



When you ask question....be ready for the answer.

The question is to "Christians"............

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To those of you who dont like God , or His Word, or his followers......
You will not find the answer you want to hear.....

So why argue???

[Tricky D]

Originally Posted by nay624

sin is sin. guilty of one guilty of them all....

Why insist that homosexuals should feel guilty of their sexual orientation when they clearly don't feel guilty about it?
Should heterosexuals also feel guilty of their sexual orientation?
Ah, I see; sex is only to procreate and not to enjoy.

[Simple Living]

Originally Posted by Tricky D

Originally Posted by Simple Living The mayority of the western world who have experienced the Age of Enlightenment disagree with you.

I am only a bigot if the things that I've said about Christians are untrue.
Or that there are no Christian bigots.

The fact that many Christians believe that they can't be bigots because they are Christians often causes them to accuse me of being a bigot, because they can't wrap it around their heads that some Christian behaviour (like being anti-gay) actually is factual proof of bigotry.

You didn't answer my question. Are homosexuals who bash Christians bigots? You skip the convenient fact that many homosexuals and atheists are bigoted towards Christians. It works both ways.

"The Age of Enlightenment" is a false doctrine and "the majority of the Western World" has not experienced it. Over-generalization to support yet another strawman argument. (Are you sure you're not a scarecrow?)

I grant you that there are people who call themselves "christians" who are bigots. But you fail to realize that not everyone who calls themselves a "Christian" is actually a true, Biblical Christian. Yes, I've never denied that I hate homosexuality, as in the act and the lifestyle. I never once said I hate homosexuals themselves and I've never once harassed, bashed or teased a homosexual, thus, I am not a bigot. My comments and discussions have been in forums where homosexuality is being discussed. I've never brought it up on my own and, again, I've never been mean to a homosexual.

You tend to combine partial slices of information together and claim it to be a whole truth and fact. How convenient for you. It doesn't make it true, but I'm sure it's convenient for you.

Sleep well.

[nay624]

Originally Posted by Tricky D

Originally Posted by nay624 Why insist that homosexuals should feel guilty of their sexual orientation when they clearly don't feel guilty about it?
Should heterosexuals also feel guilty of their sexual orientation?
Ah, I see; sex is only to procreate and not to enjoy.

not what I meant...

sin is sin.....
"sin" mean to 'miss the mark' as in archery.
"All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23

In the eyes of God... any sin means you 'miss the mark', mine as well be guilty of all sin. all sin is equel. yet have different consequences...
for example...murder vs. coveting your neighbors "car" ( I already am a wife, and no I dont want one [joke]).

to address the Guilt factor: who cares if you feel guilty or not...

I do not insist thst homosexuals 'should' feel guilty that you assume}

I insist we are all on the same playing field. all guilty of being imperfect without Jesus.

[Tricky D]

Originally Posted by Simple Living

"The Age of Enlightenment" is a false doctrine and "the majority of the Western World" has not experienced it. Over-generalization to support yet another strawman argument. (Are you sure you're not a scarecrow?)

LoL I am sure that I am not a Christian, only a follower of Jesus.
When a homosexual explains to the Christian that Christian behaviour exhibits bigotry and he only stated facts he then is not a bigot because he stayed with the facts.
Not just his belief, unlike many Christians who can only point their finger at the Bible.

[Simple Living]

Originally Posted by Tricky D

Should heterosexuals also feel guilty of their sexual orientation?
Ah, I see; sex is only to procreate and not to enjoy.

Not of their orientation, but they should feel shame if they're committing adultery or sleeping around outside of marriage.

And yes, sex was meant to be enjoyed by a husband and wife. Who said it wasn't to be enjoyed as well as for procreation? There you go putting words in people's posts again.

[nay624]

Oh the B.I.B.L.E..............
thats the book for me............

[Tricky D]

Originally Posted by nay624

I insist we are all on the same playing field. all guilty of being imperfect without Jesus.

Huh?
I don't feel guilty of being imperfect; that is just being human.
Nor do I feel guilty about not being Jesus.

Jesus helps me to be a better person, but this by no way means that I'll ever be perfect.

[Simple Living]

Originally Posted by Tricky D

Originally Posted by Simple Living LoL I am sure that I am not a Christian, only a follower of Jesus.

Not the Jesus of the Bible apparently. The Jesus of the Bible condemned homosexuality. Where is your evidence that Jesus supported homosexuality and said it's perfectly fine? There are numerous scriptures that clearly state that it's not.

When a homosexual explains to the Christian that Christian behaviour exhibits bigotry and he only stated facts he then is not a bigot because he stayed with the facts.

My, how civilized you make the homosexual to be in this pretend conversation! You sure do like your conveniences, I must say!

Not just his belief, unlike many Christians who can only point their finger at the Bible.

You are clearly very deceived.

I'm off to bed. Goodnight.