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05-04-2008, 09:54 PM
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ichigo ichie 1 time 1 meeting unprecedented
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yes i do. but bear in mind jesus spoke on this subject and went easier on folks than the old testament you quoted.
but the entire notion of sexuality being my identity either hetero or homo is erroneous.
my identity is spiritual not material.
work church, art, sports have shaped me and formed me far more than sex.
when we get out of touch with our own core values by means of whatever enticement its makes us crazy and angry. like some posts i have seen on CD.
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05-04-2008, 09:54 PM
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Just the truth...That is the type of preachy post I will never read...If you want to use your own words fine. I'm not gay, but I do not stick my nose in other's bedrooms, nor do I judge them...What happens between consenting adults is none of my business.
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05-04-2008, 10:06 PM
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I don't understand that in 2008, someone can still rely on the bible to tell them what's right and wrong - I mean, it's been completely disproved in every regard.
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If they can believe it in 1950, why not 2008? Its only 58 years difference, and the Bible is thousands of years old. God's word will stand forever. The Bible has NEVER been disproven. I don't know where you get that its been disproven in every way. Much of the Bible is open to interpretation and everything we know in science today can be fit into an interpretation of the Bible.
As for homosexuality, I am not sure if its an abomination because that stems from Old Testament law. It is clearly a sinful act though as stated by Paul in Romans 1 and in Corinthians. Those questioning the translation, it easily falls under fornication as well, as there is no biblical marriage between two men or two women and sex outside of marriage is fornication. All of that said, Christ died for the homosexual though just as he did for the heterosexual. He died for all sinners, and all sinners can be saved by His grace.
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05-04-2008, 10:07 PM
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Do you take the bible literally when it states homosexuality is an abomination? Or do you believe the multidude of scientific evidence which suggests it's a natural variation of heterosexuality?
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I reject the bible from cover to cover and see it as a mythology relating to a one sided vague history. I accept the scientific answer on most issues including sexuality. I think to do less would make me a bigot.
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05-04-2008, 10:19 PM
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Just the truth...That is the type of preachy post I will never read...If you want to use your own words fine. I'm not gay, but I do not stick my nose in other's bedrooms, nor do I judge them...What happens between consenting adults is none of my business.
Sanspeur,
I respect yout descision not to read my post, but if you did not read it then how can you comment on its meaning?
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05-04-2008, 10:22 PM
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To God Be All Glory!
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Right, and then Leviticus also states one shouldn't eat shell fish, women shouldn't wear jewelry, and people shouldn't swim.
In additon, Corinthians states that adulterers, idolators, male prostitutes, sodomizers (there was no word for homosexuality when the bible was written - that's how it was translated after the fact), and those who engage in pre-marital sex will not inhabit the "kingdom of god".
So the question is: why are gays targeted more harshly and critically than the other cardinal sins that won't get one into this so-called kingdom? It couldn't be prejudice and a reluctance to accept scientific reality, could it?
The bible states a multitude of inaccuate information about the shape, axis, and rotation of Earth, the cosmos, and species evolution, in addition to making absurd claims and historical occurances which have not the slightest bit of evidence to suggest they're true.
I don't understand that in 2008, someone can still rely on the bible to tell them what's right and wrong - I mean, it's been completely disproved in every regard.
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This entire post is a lie from the pit of hell. And in no way has the Bible "been completely disproved in every regard." Your saying so doesn't make it true. You obviously have absolutely no understanding of scripture or the study of it. God is the same yesterday, today and forever. If you don't like what the Bible has to say, then your problem is with God, not the people who know the Bible to be true and obey it.
Your motive for starting this thread was clearly to start fights. What other answer did you expect Christians to give? Yes, homosexuality is an abomination to God. It's quite clear in the old and new testaments.
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05-04-2008, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JUST THE TRUTH
Just the truth...That is the type of preachy post I will never read...If you want to use your own words fine. I'm not gay, but I do not stick my nose in other's bedrooms, nor do I judge them...What happens between consenting adults is none of my business.
Sanspeur,
I respect yout descision not to read my post, but if you did not read it then how can you comment on its meaning?
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I made no comment on your post, as I did not read it. I simply addressed the topic of this thread in my own words....If it relates to what you posted it is only coincidence.
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05-05-2008, 02:08 AM
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Do you take the bible literally when it states homosexuality is an abomination?
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According to the Bible, which I believe to be the Word of God, it is an abonination to God. If God considers it an abomination it doesn't matter what I or anyone else thinks about it. Our original sin was to take it upon ourselves to determine right and wrong, rather than obeying God.
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05-05-2008, 02:10 AM
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Vagabond
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Just the truth...That is the type of preachy post I will never read....
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Then why post in a religious forum? I'm sure there are many gay forums out there.
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05-05-2008, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by trnmeon
Do you take the bible literally when it states homosexuality is an abomination? Or do you believe the multidude of scientific evidence which suggests it's a natural variation of heterosexuality?
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I have no opinion on it whatsoever. It's not how I am, so I can't approach it from any kind of personal experience. I know I was heterosexual...ever since I expressed an interest in that fashion. Males never interested me.
I suppose it probably works the same for them.
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