Christians: do you believe homosexuality is an abomination? (priests, bishop, Catholic)

[sanspeur]

Originally Posted by Nikk

Yes homosexuality is an abomination.

Any sex outside of marriage is a sin. Lusting after woman or men in your heart is a sin.

Jesus came to save us from our sin.

Are you trying to say you have never felt lust?...Are you sure you are alive?

[twin.spin]

Originally Posted by Tricky D

Originally Posted by NikkDoes this then mean that we can lust in our heart, because Jesus already saved us from it?
Or would Jesus then be jealous?
I still don't see why gay men and women can't be married if they don't lust after people outside their marriage.

From a Biblical NT view point:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NIV

"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Jude 1:7 NIV
In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

The reason why they should not live together is its perversion and sexually immoral. Do not be decieved. The Bible speaks very plainly about homosexuality. It really comes down to if you're willing to accept it or mock it.

[juj]

Originally Posted by trnmeon

Do you take the bible literally when it states homosexuality is an abomination? Or do you believe the multidude of scientific evidence which suggests it's a natural variation of heterosexuality?

I believe it's a natural variation of heterosexuality that's an abomination. I agree that no one would pick that difficult life on purpose, but is drawn to it because of DNA gone astray. But like many birth defects, it is NOT helpful to the species since there is no way to procreate. Homosexuality is much like other birth defects that causes pain and is of no benefit.

[Tricky D]

Originally Posted by twin.spin

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?

So gay people are automatically wicked and no Christian has ever acted wickedly?

Originally Posted by juj

But like many birth defects, it is NOT helpful to the species since there is no way to procreate.

Right.
Following your logic infertile people are abominations since they do not procreate?
Are you also implying that people who enjoy sex are wicked?

[twin.spin]

Originally Posted by Tricky D

Originally Posted by twin.spinSo gay people are automatically wicked and no Christian has ever acted wickedly?

Tricky,
Romans 1:24-27
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.

25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.

27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

To answer your first part of the question, active homosexuality is wicked.
The second there has never been a Christian who has acted wickedly.

But you are implying that a active homosexual can be a Christian. That is exchanging the truth for a lie.

[elwill]

Originally Posted by TKramar

The Old Testament counts for nothing...Jesus' birth brought an end to the old laws.

is jesus in NT said that ?
is jesus bless homosexuality or said about it that it isn't a sin anymore ?

[elwill]

Originally Posted by twin.spin

Tricky,
To answer your first part of the question, active homosexuality is wicked.
The second there has never been a Christian who has acted wickedly.

what do you mean by your second point ?

[freedom]

If you have to ask, then it is a sin.

Truth is known, there is no doubt. It is written on our hearts.

Man has an off switch to his conscience, if used often enough it becomes permanent. Another grace of Free-doom.

godspeed,

freedom

[bigthirsty]

Originally Posted by juj

I believe it's a natural variation of heterosexuality that's an abomination. I agree that no one would pick that difficult life on purpose, but is drawn to it because of DNA gone astray. But like many birth defects, it is NOT helpful to the species since there is no way to procreate. Homosexuality is much like other birth defects that causes pain and is of no benefit.

Help me out with this one:

1. I'm born with an ear on my hand (a birth defect). Lets assume the ear works.. Am I not supposed to hear out of that ear. I mean it is agianst "God's way" right?

2. Same thing with your view on homosexuals.. you see it as a birth defect. So are they not to act on what comes naturally to them?

P.S. No I don't have an ear on my hand.

[Tricky D]

Originally Posted by twin.spin

The second there has never been a Christian who has acted wickedly.

Right.
Then why go to confession and ask for forgiveness if no Christian has ever acted wickedly?

But you are implying that a active homosexual can be a Christian. That is exchanging the truth for a lie.

Dang, I forgot I was talking to American Christians.
I guess homosexuals have become the new women because after 20+ centuries women are finally treated equally by (most) Christians?