Christians: do you believe homosexuality is an abomination? (Islam, pray, God)

[Nikk]

Originally Posted by .....think

ok since last one was "rude"

This gets me "mad" off since marriage isnt Christian and was made along time before Christians. Greeks have been marrying homosexuals way before Christianity. So when Christians say marriage is a sacret institution just gets me "mad" off.
Christanins need to stop trying to force their views on others. They have no right to restrict gay marriage.
Realy christians need to work on their own priest raping little boys (no offence dont delete)

Christianity is a sect of Judaism. This goes back to the begining. God created the world, then Adam and Eve. God gives Eve to Adam (the first marriage). After some time Noah, the Flood. Then Noah has Grandchildren in the new world (post flood world). Japheth (Son of Noah) had several sons one was Javan who was the father of the Greeks.

(See: Table of Nations by Tim Osterholm)

So, the Greeks may have married but it was a tradition passed down from the fathers originating from the first marriage of Adam and Eve.

So yes Greeks pre-date Christianity but the practice of marriage pre-dates the Greeks and has been passed down from the time of Adam and Eve. This is reccorded in the Christian Bible and the Torah.

How interesting that you relate priests raping and gay marriage... Both are sinful. The priest is going against the word of God as much as any homosexual.

[elwill]

Originally Posted by Nikk

How interesting that you relate priests raping and gay marriage... Both are sinful. The priest is going against the word of God as much as any homosexual.

yes they fulfill this verse

from mathew chapter 15

7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
10 And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand:
11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man
12 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying?
13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
15 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable.
16 And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?
17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

[freedom]

Originally Posted by Nikk

Christianity is a sect of Judaism. This goes back to the begining. God created the world, then Adam and Eve. God gives Eve to Adam (the first marriage). After some time Noah, the Flood. Then Noah has Grandchildren in the new world (post flood world). Japheth (Son of Noah) had several sons one was Javan who was the father of the Greeks.

(See: Table of Nations by Tim Osterholm)

So, the Greeks may have married but it was a tradition passed down from the fathers originating from the first marriage of Adam and Eve.

So yes Greeks pre-date Christianity but the practice of marriage pre-dates the Greeks and has been passed down from the time of Adam and Eve. This is reccorded in the Christian Bible and the Torah.

How interesting that you relate priests raping and gay marriage... Both are sinful. The priest is going against the word of God as much as any homosexual.

Actually Christianity has been from the beginning, Christ means annointed. Christian= annointed ones.

Enoch was fully annointed with light when He was translated. He is the 7th from Adam.

godspeed,


freedom

[Lior Arel]

"I don't like peas, and I'm glad I don't like them, because if I liked them, I would eat them, and I hate them." — Quentin Crisp

[freedom]

Originally Posted by Lior Arel

"I don't like peas, and I'm glad I don't like them, because if I liked them, I would eat them, and I hate them." — Quentin Crisp

Hate is such a strong word for peas.

[Lior Arel]

Well, people often ask me how I can be a Christian and gay. Some here would argue with my response, but for those who may wonder:

I am a gay man. I did not choose this and it is not the result of some "childhood trauma". I was married for several years as I tried through prayer and therapy to change my orientation. In the end it left me physically ill due to the emotional exhaustion of denying who I am. Love is never wrong. For me and other gay people, loving a member of the same gender has the same spiritual and physical connections you feel for the opposite gender. We have the same struggles in relationships, and just like heterosexuals, there are gay people who are simply looking for physical, etc.

Now, if being gay is a sin (and I'm not so sure it is), I know that the Jesus I KNOW from the Bible and my own relationship with Him will look on me at judgement and say with love in His eyes, "I know you couldn't have chosen different".

[.....think]

Originally Posted by Nikk

Christianity is a sect of Judaism. This goes back to the begining. God created the world, then Adam and Eve. God gives Eve to Adam (the first marriage). After some time Noah, the Flood. Then Noah has Grandchildren in the new world (post flood world). Japheth (Son of Noah) had several sons one was Javan who was the father of the Greeks.

(See: Table of Nations by Tim Osterholm)

So, the Greeks may have married but it was a tradition passed down from the fathers originating from the first marriage of Adam and Eve.

So yes Greeks pre-date Christianity but the practice of marriage pre-dates the Greeks and has been passed down from the time of Adam and Eve. This is reccorded in the Christian Bible and the Torah.

How interesting that you relate priests raping and gay marriage... Both are sinful. The priest is going against the word of God as much as any homosexual.

Wrong again my friend. Evolutions throws adman and eve out, The first people were non religious or believe in some mother god. You cant argue with history because it isn't an idea its a fact something that cant be changed

Priest wise please deal with them before you start forcing your ways on us.
The US is one of the few countries that will allow Christians to do this and it really stop.

Tired of people trying to force their ways on a idea that might not even be true. And as far as most the world believes it isn't

History shows that first man came from todays Africa and was black, It was also shows that first people were nomads, of small groups that broke up at one point but i dont see any other way population could grow. Human knowledge was nothing like it was as it says at the beging of the bible.

I just read what you source is saying which is funny, when you look at his map he is not putting the shift of continents. His overal movement of movement of humans are flawed

[freedom]

Originally Posted by .....think

Tired of people trying to force their ways on a idea that might not even be true.

You mean like evolution

[sanspeur]

Originally Posted by freedom

You mean like evolution

Nobody is forcing evolution on you...It just is. If you choose not to accept that fact, I don't think anybody really cares.

[Tricky D]

Originally Posted by Nikk

Christianity is a sect of Judaism. This goes back to the begining. God created the world, then Adam and Eve.

So you base your faith on wrongly understanding scripture?

Let's for the sake of argument accept that Adam and Eve have truly existed, what exactly makes them Jewish?
Is Adam ever circumcised?
Is Eve even a real woman if she was cloned out of Adam's rib?
Or is it the fact that Adam and Eve were able to talk with God that makes them Jewish?
But if talking to God makes you Jewish, how many people then are truly Jewish?
I mean, I know of people who truly are diagnosed with being insane and they believe that they have daily conversations with God, but I would never consider them Jewish (but that is because they are all Christian).
Heck, some people even believe they are God, or sons of God, or daughters of God, or the last messiah, but the majority of them probably even ain't Jewish.