Christians: do you believe homosexuality is an abomination? (Buddhist, atheist, Christianity)

[.....think]

I don't understand the thought process why homosexuality is a sin. Other than the bible said so, why is homosexuality wrong? It's not right to restrict their lives because the bible said. The US government has separation between church and state. So the thinking the bible said so, shouldn't work. So please answer why being a homosexual wrong and give me a reason other than the bible said so.

Homosexuals shouldn't be made fun of and mocked because there different.

Homosexuals are good people better then a lot of people.

[freedom]

Originally Posted by .....think

I don't understand the thought process why homosexuality is a sin. Other than the bible said so, why is homosexuality wrong? It's not right to restrict their lives because the bible said. The US government has separation between church and state. So the thinking the bible said so, shouldn't work. So please answer why being a homosexual wrong and give me a reason other than the bible said so.

Homosexuals shouldn't be made fun of and mocked because there different.

Homosexuals are good people better then a lot of people.

It goes against the system that God made.

Has zero chance of producing fruit.

THe body was not designed to have exit only areas infiltrated.

It is based on selfish lustful energies.


godspeed,

freedom

[Simple Living]

Originally Posted by sanspeur

Nobody is forcing evolution on you...It just is. If you choose not to accept that fact, I don't think anybody really cares.

Christianity just is. John 8:58, "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"

Nobody's forcing Christianity on anyone either because it can't be forced. Nobody on CD Forums can claim it's forced because they freely sign into the Religion and Christianity forums of their own free will. Salvation is freely given and must be freely accepted.

The difference is, if you don't accept it, Christians do care. So does God. Because we know what the alternative is for you, even if you don't realize it. It's beyond any horror you could wish on your worst enemy. Personally, I don't want it to become a reality for anyone.

[uglyblackjohn]

I think that engaging in homosexual acts is a sin. I also realize that religion is to help you rule yourself-not to rule and oppress others. Can I tell that you're going to hell? No, no more than I can say whether I am or not (I hope not).

[Simple Living]

Originally Posted by .....think

I don't understand the thought process why homosexuality is a sin. Other than the bible said so, why is homosexuality wrong?

The Bible saying so is enough of a reason. God says so.

It's not right to restrict their lives because the bible said. The US government has separation between church and state. So the thinking the bible said so, shouldn't work.

Because, to Christians, the Bible is a higher authority (the highest) than the US government, not the other way around. Government does not dictate to God. It's that simple.

So please answer why being a homosexual wrong and give me a reason other than the bible said so.

Since the Bible - the innerrant word of God - is the guide book for Christians, naturally we would quote it. We're saying it's wrong (an abomination) because the Bible says so. We're not making things up, but using the Bible as the guide for our thoughts, words, deeds, worship and belief system.

The Bible says homosexuality is a sin over and over again. 1 Corinthians 6:9 says that homosexual “offenders” (among others) won't inherit the kingdom of God.

Romans 1:26-27 teaches that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When someone continues in sin and disbelief, the Bible says that God “gives them over” to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. God didn't create homosexuality. Biblically, someone becomes a homosexual due to their sin, and then their choice. A person might be more susceptible to homosexuality just like some are more susceptible to violence or other sins. Is it right for someone to give in to violence or rage simply because they were more susceptible to it? Of course not. Why should homosexuality be any different?

Homosexuals shouldn't be made fun of and mocked because there different.

I agree. Nowhere does the Bible says they are to be mocked and made fun of. But, a question for you. If homosexuals shouldn't be mocked and made fun of, why do they (and others) do it to Christians? They want an acceptance and a tolerance for their beliefs that they aren't willing to give to Christians. That's the double-standard hypocrisy of political correctness.

Homosexuals are good people better then a lot of people.

Mark 10:18, "...No one is good but One, that is, God."

[.....think]

Originally Posted by freedom

It goes against the system that God made.

Has zero chance of producing fruit.

THe body was not designed to have exit only areas infiltrated.

It is based on selfish lustful energies.


godspeed,

freedom

Simple Christains arnt made fun of for being christain in america 70% of people are christain here.

Ok all of you hasn't given me 1 good reason why homosexuals are bad other then god said so. Which you cant prove and you don't know

So your basing your whole arguments.

2nd homosexuals actually might love each other your telling them their love is not right and thats wrong. All because a BOOK says its bad when there is almost 200 books like it.

Not one of you have gave me one reason other than the book said so.

Plz don't answer without giving me a reason, other than god said so.

Because your god has slaughtered people for religion and massacred cities. Killed the very man that freed his people. He is not moral at all, one who cant follow his one rule is not perfect, one who must kill is not a god, one who requires worship, deserves none and one who will watch as people die, when they have the power to stop it, is the one that should die.

Its grade school people, If you see someone being bullied what do you do? you help and stop the burlier.

I have no clue why you people worship such god with blood on his hands as it says in the old testament.

However now give me a reason why homosexuals are bad with out the word god, bible, jesus, holy spirt, the book, religion, or religion views.

Your saying this as your sole proof, it is saying you are not a free thinker, you are saying i will do what one says no matter what he says. You will not question, and you believe in ignorance is blessed.

In fact your admitting to it, by saying i don't care what he says are what he does, by not asking why, or thinking is this really moral, is this really what is right. Look in your heart and find the truth, and i'm not talking about god i'm talking about morals.

SO ASK YOURSELF. WHY IS HOMOSEXUALS Immoral, what have they done wrong, who are they hurting?

If your only reason is the bible please don't answer because I don't care what a close minded man says, because your view has no meaning.

[nay624]

Originally Posted by Lior Arel

Well, people often ask me how I can be a Christian and gay. Some here would argue with my response, but for those who may wonder:

I am a gay man. I did not choose this and it is not the result of some "childhood trauma". I was married for several years as I tried through prayer and therapy to change my orientation. In the end it left me physically ill due to the emotional exhaustion of denying who I am. Love is never wrong. For me and other gay people, loving a member of the same gender has the same spiritual and physical connections you feel for the opposite gender. We have the same struggles in relationships, and just like heterosexuals, there are gay people who are simply looking for physical, etc.

Now, if being gay is a sin (and I'm not so sure it is), I know that the Jesus I KNOW from the Bible and my own relationship with Him will look on me at judgement and say with love in His eyes, "I know you couldn't have chosen different".

So I ask...in your 'personal relationship' with Jesus..and through prayer and counseling....you arrived at the idea (fact) that you are just gay.....

did you ever consider, that having these feelings were just spiritual attack?? or possibly the 'thorn in your side'??? if so.....how long before you "gave in to your feelings"??

I mean at some point you must have thought it was a sin.....cuz you denied it and attempted to"pray it away"...and it didnt go away...
So...was it even a choice for you to "give in to" the feelings (fact)...yet not
'fornicate'?? do any of your 'christian homosexuals' not actually physically practice homosexuality, yet are drawn to a gay lover???

**not so sure I am actually asking what I want...I in no way mean to sound scarcastic, or demeaning. I am truely curious and would love to hear the story of your journey. If youd like to send me a message I'd understand....

thanx ..

again...curious..........

[Lior Arel]

Originally Posted by nay624

So I ask...in your 'personal relationship' with Jesus..and through prayer and counseling....you arrived at the idea (fact) that you are just gay.....

did you ever consider, that having these feelings were just spiritual attack?? or possibly the 'thorn in your side'??? if so.....how long before you "gave in to your feelings"??

I mean at some point you must have thought it was a sin.....cuz you denied it and attempted to"pray it away"...and it didnt go away...
So...was it even a choice for you to "give in to" the feelings (fact)...yet not
'fornicate'?? do any of your 'christian homosexuals' not actually physically practice homosexuality, yet are drawn to a gay lover???

**not so sure I am actually asking what I want...I in no way mean to sound scarcastic, or demeaning. I am truely curious and would love to hear the story of your journey. If youd like to send me a message I'd understand....

thanx ..

again...curious..........

I understand your curiosity. I posted to share my view. However, I'm not responding with too many particulars since I don't have the inclination to argue scripture and spirituality ad nauseum which is what happens on these threads. Politics, mud slinging, and accusations get thrown in and I don't care to expose myself to all that.

My journey brought me to a good place. I am confident in my faith and my relationship with God. In fact, when it comes to my love life I can feel Him smile on me when I'm in a committed, loving relationship and I've felt His sadness when I've debased into the purely physical (it's happened a time or two ) Faith is a personal thing and everyone experiences it differently. There are many religions and factions within each religion for this sole reason. I look down on no one. I live my life and love the best way I know how and hope others do the same.

Freedom, your allusion to "exit only" is offensive and insulting for reasons I won't go into here. If you can't see why on your own, it would do no good to engage that discussion here Besides that, the human body was also not designed to walk upright or sit typing at a computer or do many other things we do with it on a regular basis. i would not condemn any of my fellow man for not behaving as we are designed as we all fly in the face of our bodies' design 24/7.

[Nikk]

...think,

You are not listening. Simple Living said it right. God is the highest authority, you might not like this authority but it is the one that the Christians appeals to. You are looking for us to prove to you using some falible human arguement. If we give you some humanistic philosophical reasoning for immorality, you will just shoot it down. So, you want to just prove that you own ideas are right. You have already made up your mind so I fail to see why you need some confirmation or the reason to pick a fight.

The bible is clear that homosexuality is wrong. In fact it is clear that any form of adultry is wrong. That is having sex with anyone outside of marriage including people of the opposite sex, people of the same sex, minors (because they are to young to marry), sex with animals and sex with the dead. Jesus even said if you look upon a woman and lust after her you have commited adultry with her in your heart.

So God is the moral compass for the christian. If you don't like this authority and want another then you are putting something else in a higher position than God, like human reason.

[freedom]

Originally Posted by .....think

Simple Christains arnt made fun of for being christain in america 70% of people are christain here.

Ok all of you hasn't given me 1 good reason why homosexuals are bad other then god said so. Which you cant prove and you don't know

So your basing your whole arguments.

2nd homosexuals actually might love each other your telling them their love is not right and thats wrong. All because a BOOK says its bad when there is almost 200 books like it.

Not one of you have gave me one reason other than the book said so.

Plz don't answer without giving me a reason, other than god said so.

Because your god has slaughtered people for religion and massacred cities. Killed the very man that freed his people. He is not moral at all, one who cant follow his one rule is not perfect, one who must kill is not a god, one who requires worship, deserves none and one who will watch as people die, when they have the power to stop it, is the one that should die.

Its grade school people, If you see someone being bullied what do you do? you help and stop the burlier.

I have no clue why you people worship such god with blood on his hands as it says in the old testament.

However now give me a reason why homosexuals are bad with out the word god, bible, jesus, holy spirt, the book, religion, or religion views.

Your saying this as your sole proof, it is saying you are not a free thinker, you are saying i will do what one says no matter what he says. You will not question, and you believe in ignorance is blessed.

In fact your admitting to it, by saying i don't care what he says are what he does, by not asking why, or thinking is this really moral, is this really what is right. Look in your heart and find the truth, and i'm not talking about god i'm talking about morals.

SO ASK YOURSELF. WHY IS HOMOSEXUALS Immoral, what have they done wrong, who are they hurting?

If your only reason is the bible please don't answer because I don't care what a close minded man says, because your view has no meaning.

I gave you 4 simple reasons. Your not listening. Your anger is apparent. There is no anger in perfect love.

godspeed,

freedom