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07-21-2008, 09:11 PM
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Tsalagi Spiritual Elder
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Originally Posted by Mark S.
I find it oddly interesting how so many atheists go out of their way to jab at Christians. Very few of them are over on the Asartu messageboards discussing the existence of Thor.
And that's not a jab at ptsum. I mean that as a general observation.
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Mark S.,no offense taken,I am not an atheist.
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07-21-2008, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tricky D
Originally Posted by Mark S.  Isn't it a fact that Christians have to believe that everyone is going to hell unless they accept Christ as their saviour?
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No. That's a vast oversimplification.
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As far as I know Thor hasn't doomed anyone nor do his followers threaten anyone who doesn't believe in him with eternal suffering in hell.
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Thousands of Europeans in the Middle Ages would disagree with you.
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Besidez, how many powerful and / or influential people try to persuade the government to force people to live according to Thor's commandments?
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Which government is forcing you to believe anything? Did I miss a memo? 
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07-21-2008, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ptsum
Mark S.,no offense taken,I am not an atheist.
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No offence intended. The comment wasn't directed at you. I have quite enjoyed the conversation with you.
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07-21-2008, 09:35 PM
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G.I. Jesus
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Originally Posted by Mark S.
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No. That's a vast oversimplification.
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Really?
History has taught us that the non-Caucasian 'savages' were brutally converted into Christendom.
 If not by force then by gross manipulation (read: by doing business with them with poverty for the indigenous people as an end result).
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Thousands of Europeans in the Middle Ages would disagree with you.
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 That was then, this is now.
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Which government is forcing you to believe anything? Did I miss a memo?
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Your American government and churches are already suppressing your American gay minority.
And from what I've read here on the board your military also 'discriminates' non-Christians soldiers.
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07-21-2008, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ptsum
As a non-Christian and a nonbeliever that the Bible is the Word of the Christian God, how is it that my soul was going to go to Hell, if I don't believe in either the Christian Hell or Heaven? Explain to me about something that I do not believe in.
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You may not believe hell or heaven exist, but if they do (and I believe they do), then you will go to one or the other. I believe Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life. Through him we receive salvation.
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07-21-2008, 09:59 PM
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Tsalagi Spiritual Elder
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Originally Posted by jennaflorrie
You may not believe hell or heaven exist, but if they do (and I believe they do), then you will go to one or the other. I believe Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life. Through him we receive salvation.
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Then I guess unfortunately you and I will never be in the same world, for you will be in your Christian World and I will be in my Native Spiritual World with my Ancestors. This I can live with.
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07-21-2008, 10:03 PM
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May love guide your way
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Originally Posted by ptsum
I'll bring the hot dogs and hamburgers and the marshmallows.....
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Perfect, now we'll just need to get some sticks to put the hotdogs and marshmellows on. Hell does provide roasting sticks...right? Plenty of fire and plenty of marshmellows without sticks? We could be in trouble. 
There's a dance starting at 8, does someone want to invite the upstairs neighbors before they call the cops on us? 
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07-21-2008, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by moonsavvy
Perfect, now we'll just need to get some sticks to put the hotdogs and marshmellows on. Hell does provide roasting sticks...right? Plenty of fire and plenty of marshmellows without sticks? We could be in trouble. 
There's a dance starting at 8, does someone want to invite the upstairs neighbors before they call the cops on us? 
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I honestly do not understand how you can make a joke out of such things! Hell is a real place - a place of torment. Christians believe this to be true and are constantly praying and witnessing to non-christians BECAUSE we don't want you to go there. Please don't laugh at such serious things.
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07-21-2008, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpha8207
Now I will probably be flamed for this post when all Christians here did was answer the questions they were asked.
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Aplha no one is going to flame you for speak your mind  we all believe in a god which essence is love, rather than that we are glad you exposed your views, sometimes we forget that we are human, thus prone to make mistakes or succumb to passions, but I think that after coming here for some time we've developed a bond that goes beyond our religious beliefs.
God bless ya man!
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07-21-2008, 10:17 PM
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Citizen of humanity before a citizen of a nation.
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Originally Posted by jennaflorrie
I honestly do not understand how you can make a joke out of such things! Hell is a real place - a place of torment. Christians believe this to be true and are constantly praying and witnessing to non-christians BECAUSE we don't want you to go there. Please don't laugh at such serious things.
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What a party pooper.
*Spits fireball at jennaflorrie*
Let us relax in this extremely hot lair and party for all of eternity. If you're not down with that, get the "hell" out. 
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