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Uh oh, did i say i was christian? Wait, i should have said my Christian friends. Is it better??
Yes, you got me all excited for nothing!
The answer to your question, in my opinion, is that the Bible does not 'prove' the existence of God.
What the Bible does is confirm what God shows us in our lives. God works, it's confirmed in scripture. Scripture speaks about a subject, God moves and confirms the Word to be true.
For believers, the closer we get to God the more we realize that both God and the Word can be trusted. Then we realize that the Word is a 'who' and a 'what', not just a 'what'. Read John 1:1-2
The answer to your question, in my opinion, is that the Bible does not 'prove' the existence of God.
What the Bible does is confirm what God shows us in our lives. God works, it's confirmed in scripture. Scripture speaks about a subject, God moves and confirms the Word to be true.
For believers, the closer we get to God the more we realize that both God and the Word can be trusted. Then we realize that the Word is a 'who' and a 'what', not just a 'what'. Read John 1:1-2
I understand, what i'm questioning is, a God as a physical entity. It has to be, otherwise, you will be praying to the wind. No?
May be i'm not all well versed on how Christians see God, but from what i read here, they refer to God as a literal living breathing being, while others see is as a spirit, but then how do you pray to a spirit, or how does spirit create anything physical?
1. Jesus was God made flesh
2. How does man create machine?
We are flesh and bones, and the machines are not.
We can program the machines to worship us or we can give them free will to choose. Machines will never be human but they can pray to us.
My point is that we were created by God who is a Spirit.
We can never fully understand everything because we are the creation not the Creator.
Keep searching for the truth, and visit a local church.
Ask someone to pray for you, and ask God to reveal Himself to you.
I have done this, accepted it, and never been the same.
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Sorry i disappointed you.
I understand, what i'm questioning is, a God as a physical entity. It has to be, otherwise, you will be praying to the wind. No?
May be i'm not all well versed on how Christians see God, but from what i read here, they refer to God as a literal living breathing being, while others see is as a spirit, but then how do you pray to a spirit, or how does spirit create anything physical?
1. Jesus was God made flesh
2. How does man create machine?
We are flesh and bones, and the machines are not.
We can program the machines to worship us or we can give them free will to choose. Machines will never be human but they can pray to us.
You got me all confused here.
So Jesus is god, and he programed us to pray to him?
OK!
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My point is that we were created by God who is a Spirit.
We can never fully understand everything because we are the creation not the Creator.
Are we back to trinity again? Spirit can't create anything. Can we name things as they are? When you talk JC, i can understand, when you start talking spirits i get confused. Which one of the "created" us?
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Keep searching for the truth, and visit a local church.
Ask someone to pray for you, and ask God to reveal Himself to you.
I have done this, accepted it, and never been the same.
1. Jesus was God made flesh
2. How does man create machine?
We are flesh and bones, and the machines are not. We can program the machines to worship us or we can give them free will to choose. Machines will never be human but they can pray to us.
My point is that we were created by God who is a Spirit.
We can never fully understand everything because we are the creation not the Creator.
Keep searching for the truth, and visit a local church.
Ask someone to pray for you, and ask God to reveal Himself to you.
I have done this, accepted it, and never been the same.
Not to sound rude, but I have yet to see a machine that prays or chooses, computers may make choices to an extent, but again that is only because they are programmed to and these choices are what we have limited them to. To say that god programmed us would be a slippery slope in the free will department.
And in regards to what the last post said church isn't the sole place of truth, in fact it can not be the source of truth because churches all teach something a little different thus Christians of the same god seem to spend more time in disagreement than agreement. it's kind of like trying to find out what the "true" time is when you have 200 clocks...
my point is that we are created by God....we will not understand everything as we are not God (the Creator)
The bible says we were made/created for His glory, but also given free will.
Whether you decide to worship Him or not is your choice.
Can you imagine asking a robot how does it feel to be a human?
God is Spirit....we are flesh. To understand God you must first give your life to Him, and follow Him.
Your point is you THINK you are created by God. The bible says a lot of things, some good some bad, and sprinkled with large amounts of magic, BUT the bible was written by men for men of ancient times, and served it's purpose in those times.......Most of the bible has no relevance to today's society.
God and his motives cannot be understood any more than the "force" in the star wars movies....These are my opinions on the matter, whereas most Christians state anything God related as fact. It is not fact, it is merely opinion, because God's existence cannot be proven.
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