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12-08-2008, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Campbell34
I can see you know nothing about the Bible.
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I don't see how you could get that from my post. Not that it matters, but I have read it cover to cover. There's nothing special about it. Its just a book of fables. In my opinion Mother Goose is a better read. 
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12-08-2008, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by swygertk
what about this prophecy?
MAT 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
MAR 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
LUK 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
(See also 1TH 4:15-18)
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And we're still here. 
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12-08-2008, 12:57 PM
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The truth is that Truth is subjective and personal. What is Truth for one person is not Truth for the next person. It saddens me when I see people insist that their version of truth is the One True Way. It is not, and for a person to be so narrow-minded as to not be able to see that everyone has to find their own Path and that Path is not going to be the same for everyone is shameful. There are many roads to Truth, it is up to each of us to choose our own.
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It is evil that states there are many ways to the truth, there is only one way to God, and that is through the person of Jesus Christ. And that person is reveal to us through the Bible. And it is that Book that reveals the prophecies of truth. No other religious text has prophecies that accurately fortells the future. God is not the author of confusion. Those who state that believers in the Bible are narrow-minded, are those who imbrace confusion, and do so without evidence of it's truth. And that is what is really shameful.
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12-08-2008, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Campbell34
It is evil that states there are many ways to the truth, there is only one way to God, and that is through the person of Jesus Christ. And that person is reveal to us through the Bible. And it is that Book that reveals the prophecies of truth. No other religious text has prophecies that accurately fortells the future. God is not the author of confusion. Those who state that believers in the Bible are narrow-minded, are those who imbrace confusion, and do so without evidence of it's truth. And that is what is really shameful.
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Please re-read my post. I did NOT say that believers in the bible were narrow-minded. I said you were being narrow-minded; you just happen to also believe in the bible. There are indeed many ways to be a good person and to live a good, honest life. If you cannot see that, then it is you who are shameful. Just as god has many names, so are there many ways to experience god.
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12-08-2008, 01:05 PM
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I don't see how you could get that from my post. Not that it matters, but I have read it cover to cover. There's nothing special about it. Its just a book of fables. In my opinion Mother Goose is a better read. 
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Again, if the Bible is a Book of fables, how do you explain it's prophecies being true? How did the Bible know that near the end of time the Jews would return to Israel, and retake Jerusalem? How did the Bible know that Jerusalems East Gate would have a porch Gate added to it? How did the Bible know that the Porch Gate would be sealed up till the end of time? How did the Bible know that when the Jews returned to Israel, that the nations of the East would be able to field an army of 200 million men?
These are not fables, these are facts.
Care to give an opinion, or are you to busy reading Mother Goose?
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12-08-2008, 01:07 PM
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And we're still here. 
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Were still here because you isolated the verse, and did not read the full context of it. The generation that sees the time of the end will be the generation that sees the fig tree shoot forth it leaves. Who is the fig tree?
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12-08-2008, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ZugZub
Please re-read my post. I did NOT say that believers in the bible were narrow-minded. I said you were being narrow-minded; you just happen to also believe in the bible. There are indeed many ways to be a good person and to live a good, honest life. If you cannot see that, then it is you who are shameful. Just as god has many names, so are there many ways to experience god.
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The Bible clearly states that there is no other name given under heaven to be saved but the name Jesus Christ. And the Bible also tells us that being a good person is not enought to earn salvation. And the Bible tells us, that you best works before the throne of God are but filthy rags. So outside of your good works, what are you going to present to God that will grant you entrance into heaven?
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12-08-2008, 01:25 PM
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Campbell, you are copping out again, I really took time and posted the scriptures you take out of context and presented a case. Now you simply say it must be discerned spiritually.
THAT IS INSULTING.
I take time to break your posts down and respond point by point yet you insist on quoting the entire post and address one or two issues then disappear down another rabbit hole.
Specific to say I addressed the fig tree now your response to BOKT1stT, you ask a question of fig tree.
You obviously do not want to debate and are only seeking a platform to regurgitate your talking points. You never rise to the challenges.
IF you are soooo spiritual, you should have no problem refuting me but you cannot - why? Because you are fibber.
You accuse everyone of not understanding as they differ in interpretation from you but you are just espousing what all futurist do - you have no real leg to stand on.
You quoted Ezekiel, you do the homework and show me exactly how it fits your POV w/o merely providing a subjective link.
In fact, based on how you present your case, you are no more than a cut and paste apologist. I would like YOU to explain to us. I ask many questions and you simply ignore them.
By now you should know how to do multiple quotes and split a long post up.
YOU ARE SIMPLY LAZY!
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12-08-2008, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Campbell34
The Bible clearly states that there is no other name given under heaven to be saved but the name Jesus Christ. And the Bible also tells us that being a good person is not enought to earn salvation. And the Bible tells us, that you best works before the throne of God are but filthy rags. So outside of your good works, what are you going to present to God that will grant you entrance into heaven?
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I'm a Buddhist, so my beliefs are different from yours and do not include an actual deity. This doesn't mean you do not have valid beliefs -- we're probably both shooting for pretty much the same thing in the end, no matter what I call it and what you call it.
If you're actually interested, and not just poking fun, you might look here:
A Basic Buddhism Guide: Differences From Other Religions.
...for a few statements about what Buddhism is and is not. Particularly note #13, which speaks of the good works you mention.
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12-08-2008, 01:30 PM
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The stories of the Bible evolved slowly over centuries before the existence of orthodox religions. Many belief cults spread stories and myths probably handed down by oral tradition from generation to generation before people wrote them down. Many of the stories originally came from Egyptian and Sumerian cults. All of these early religions practiced polytheism, including the early Hebrews.
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