Message from God to America. (Isaiah, Catholicism, organizations, New Testament)

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by SeekerSA

The Jewish Population of the World

40% in Israel and USA

The balance are in 13 other countries

Where did you get the idea that all the Jews returned to Israel? We still have to have all the Jews leave America, and that prophecy states that will happen shortly before America is destroyed by and invading army in a sneek attack.

[SeekerSA]

Religion in Israel - Religious breakdown

At the end of 2003, of Israel's 6.7 million people, 76.7% were Jewish (by religion), 15.8% were Muslim, 2.1% were Christian, 1.6% were Druze and the remaining 3.7% (including Russian immigrants and some Jews) were not classified by religion. [1]

Six percent of Israeli Jews define themselves as Haredim ("ultra-orthodox"); an additional 9% as "religious"; 34% as "traditionalists" (not strictly adhering to Jewish law or halakha); and 51% as "secular". Among the secular, 53% believe in God. [2]

Of the Arab Israelis, 82.3% are Muslim, 9% are Christian and 8.5% are Druze.[3]


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With the majority being secular, how will they exactly rebuild a temple for the minority?

THIRTY YEARS the folk have been espousing this "FACT" and nada. It is mere speculation backed up by Zero facts.

The religious hold no majority in the Israeli Parliament.

[SeekerSA]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

Where did you get the idea that all the Jews returned to Israel? We still have to have all the Jews leave America, and that prophecy states that will happen shortly before America is destroyed by and invading army in a sneek attack.

Your prophesy does not hold water:

Israeli Migration Agents Target German Jews

Soviet migrants in Nativ agency's sights· Germany's Jewish council condemns 'offensive' plan
An Israeli intelligence organization is to send agents to Germany in an effort to persuade tens of thousands of Jews from the former Soviet Union to settle in Israel.

Representatives of the organization Nativ are soon to operate on the approval of the Israeli government to "counter the dangerous assimilation of former Soviet Jews in Germany", according to the wording of a decision recently passed by the cabinet of prime minister Ehud Olmert.

Around 200,000 Jews from the former Soviet Union, about 70% of the total community, are currently living in Germany having begun arriving at the invitation of the government in the early 1990s. But their assimilation into what is now the fastest growing Jewish community in the world has been problematic, largely due to linguistic and cultural differences, including varying approaches to defining Jewishness and even sometimes a lack of knowledge about the Holocaust.

The Israeli embassy in Berlin has confirmed that two emissaries from Nativ are due to arrive in Berlin within the next few weeks to start their work, which includes trying to encourage emigration to Israel among the Jews from the former Soviet Union, and offering help with their move on issues such as bureaucratic matters.

The German press has referred to the operation as being "James Bond-like".

The Central Council of Jews, the organization representing Jews in Germany, has expressed its fury that Israel is trying to effectively steal its members. In a recent letter to Mr Olmert, the council described the decision as a "sign of mistrust which we find personally offensive".

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Seems that the folk are not going to even entertain this, no sane person is going to leave the 2nd most prosperous nation in the world to the relative poverty of Israel.

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by esselcue

This statement puzzles me because Jews are extremely devoted to God and honor Him in their lives every day. What you mean is that Jews did not accept Jesus as god. Well, I am not Jewish but I don't think Jesus was god either. Hope no one gasses me for that belief.

Well the Old Testament prophecies state that when the Jewish Messiah would come to His own people, they would reject Him. So it should be no surprise that the Jews did not accept Christ. And in Zec. chapter 12 of the Old Testament, it states that when the Messiah does return at the end of time and the Jewish people see who He is, they are going to be very upset, and the entire nation will go into a great time of mourning. And Jesus is God, because He fulfilled the three hundred prophecies of the Old Testament.

[SeekerSA]

Emigration from Israel exceeds immigration, report

04/20/2007

Tel Aviv (dpa) - In Israel, the number of emigrants exceeded the number of immigrants for the first time in 20 years, the Israeli daily Yediot Ahronot reported Friday.

Many emigrants were recent arrivals who wanted to leave Israel again, the report said. In 2007, 14,400 immigrants are expected in Israel while 20,000 people are expected to leave the country, according to the report based on figures for the first months of 2007.

The last time emigration exceeded immigration was in the aftermath of the 1973 Yom Kippur War and in 1983 and 1984 when inflation was high.

Meanwhile the Maariv newspaper reported that approximately a quarter of the Israeli population was considering emigration.

Almost half of the country's young people were thinking of leaving the country, the report said. Their reasons included dissatisfaction with the government, the education system, a lack of confidence in the political ruling class and concern over the security situation.

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Yup they sure are flocking to Israel

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by SeekerSA

Religion in Israel - Religious breakdown

At the end of 2003, of Israel's 6.7 million people, 76.7% were Jewish (by religion), 15.8% were Muslim, 2.1% were Christian, 1.6% were Druze and the remaining 3.7% (including Russian immigrants and some Jews) were not classified by religion. [1]

Six percent of Israeli Jews define themselves as Haredim ("ultra-orthodox"); an additional 9% as "religious"; 34% as "traditionalists" (not strictly adhering to Jewish law or halakha); and 51% as "secular". Among the secular, 53% believe in God. [2]

Of the Arab Israelis, 82.3% are Muslim, 9% are Christian and 8.5% are Druze.[3]


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With the majority being secular, how will they exactly rebuild a temple for the minority?

THIRTY YEARS the folk have been espousing this "FACT" and nada. It is mere speculation backed up by Zero facts.

The religious hold no majority in the Israeli Parliament.

God clearly states that the Jews that are returning to Israel are not Godly people. God states these people polluted my name were ever they wandered. Yet (most) Jews in Israel today want their temple rebuilt, because it is more of a thing of national pride, then religious belief.

[LogicIsYourFriend]

I did the math in another thread, but Israel is just smaller than New Jersey. NJ has the highest population density in America. And for all the Jews in the world right now to be in Israel, it would have to be almost double the population of NJ.

The original post, with references:

Originally Posted by LogicIsYourFriend

And Christians since the earliest have thought it would happen in THEIR lifetime. Why are you special?

2 years time? Ok, so your prophecy has a time limit. Get back to me in 2 years when there are still Jews outside of Israel.

BTW, Israel is slightly smaller than New Jersey, and Israel's population is already 6 million (ref). New Jersey has a population of 8 million (ref), and has the highest pop. density in America (ref). There are 13 million Jews in the world, and 37% live in Israel already (ref). If 9 million more Jews moved to Israel, that would mean there would be 15 million people living in Israel, which would be almost double the pop. density of NJ.

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by SeekerSA

Your prophesy does not hold water:

Israeli Migration Agents Target German Jews

Soviet migrants in Nativ agency's sights· Germany's Jewish council condemns 'offensive' plan
An Israeli intelligence organization is to send agents to Germany in an effort to persuade tens of thousands of Jews from the former Soviet Union to settle in Israel.

Representatives of the organization Nativ are soon to operate on the approval of the Israeli government to "counter the dangerous assimilation of former Soviet Jews in Germany", according to the wording of a decision recently passed by the cabinet of prime minister Ehud Olmert.

Around 200,000 Jews from the former Soviet Union, about 70% of the total community, are currently living in Germany having begun arriving at the invitation of the government in the early 1990s. But their assimilation into what is now the fastest growing Jewish community in the world has been problematic, largely due to linguistic and cultural differences, including varying approaches to defining Jewishness and even sometimes a lack of knowledge about the Holocaust.

The Israeli embassy in Berlin has confirmed that two emissaries from Nativ are due to arrive in Berlin within the next few weeks to start their work, which includes trying to encourage emigration to Israel among the Jews from the former Soviet Union, and offering help with their move on issues such as bureaucratic matters.

The German press has referred to the operation as being "James Bond-like".

The Central Council of Jews, the organization representing Jews in Germany, has expressed its fury that Israel is trying to effectively steal its members. In a recent letter to Mr Olmert, the council described the decision as a "sign of mistrust which we find personally offensive".

Link

Seems that the folk are not going to even entertain this, no sane person is going to leave the 2nd most prosperous nation in the world to the relative poverty of Israel.

The most recent demographics indicate that by the year 2050 most Jews will live in Israel. This number may increase before that however, because the demographics of both Russia and Europe indicate that they both are well on their way to becomeing Islamic nations.

[SeekerSA]

Israel sees drop in immigration

According to the Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics, immigration to the country has dropped significantly since the early 1990s.The number if immigrants dropped 9% in 2006 from the previous year.

In 1990, almost 200,000 people immigrated to Israel, most from Former Soviet Union (FSU) countries. After 1991, in which 176,100 immigrants arrived in the country, the numbers declined steadily - from 77,057 in 1992 to 19,264 in 2006.

In 2006, the FSU countries continue to be the leading source of immigrants at 39%. However, that number is down 19% for European FSU countries and down 29% for FSU countries in Asia from the previous year.

As a group, immigrants from the United States were one of the few exceptions. Their numbers rose by 5% over the previous year for a total of 2,157.
The US, with more than 5 million Jews, constitutes the largest potential pool of immigrants to Israel, which has historically depended on immigration as a source for its population.

In a historic sense, the statistics are nothing new. The last large immigration wave before the influx of immigrants in the early 90s was immediately after the state's formation in 1947. At its peak in 1948, Israel saw an estimated 240,000 immigrants arrive.

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Almost 3,000,000 people have immigrated to Israel since the nation was founded. The current population of the country is just over 7 million.

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Hardly constitutes a mass immigration.

Most migrants are retirees who's income is derived from other countries in pensions. Or IOW they are going to their traditional home to die.

[SeekerSA]