islamic and christianity (Satan, evolution, Lord, heaven)

[serena nisha sattar]

who created the creator invisible that created everything in the dimension that we all live in?

[serena nisha sattar]

i see nobody knows who the creator is that created every evolution we have ever studied on earth. nobody knows the creator that created everything in this dimension that we live in even the air that we breathe. i was just wondering why nobody knows anything about the creator that created every species and every evolution process we have been through over the years.

[kdbrich]

He wasn't created. At some point the idea of the universe requires an uncreated creator. We can speculate that he was created...but then who created his creator? And that one? And that one? And so on....

At some point, since we know that time had a beginning (can't go back an infinite number of years), it had to start somewhere. The logical thing is the idea of an uncreated/uncaused cause.

[moonsun]

who is the creator of god
this question is not logical and it is invalid and contradictory in it self
because Allah is the creator and he is not the created

for example we say Allah the strong and this Characteristic for Allah is invalid to have its Versa which is weak

same thing he is the creator we cant say he is created

and he is not created so how can we ask who created him .

if we have imposed - a controversy - there is a creator for the creator then we ask who is the creator of the creator and then
who is the creator that creat the creator of the creator

Thus, to continue indefinitely. This is impossible in the minds.

so he is the creator and every thing else is created and they end to him

he is the first and nothing before him
he is the last and nothing after him

the laws and rules of the universe is created by Allah and it does not pply on him

he does not need any thing to create the universe .


2:117 To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: When He decreeth a matter, He
saith to it: "Be," and it is.

Sura #54 Al-Qamar / The moon verses 50
And Our Command is but a single (Act),- like the twinkling of an eye.

19:35 It befitteth not (the Majesty of) Allah that He should take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him!
When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is.

19:36 And lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So serve Him. That is the right path.


112:1 Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
2 Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
3 He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
4 And there is none like unto Him.

and in the hadith

"Satan comes to one of you and says, 'Who created so-and-so? 'till he says, 'Who has created your
Lord?' So, when he inspires such a question, one should seek refuge with Allah and give up such
thoughts."

[elwill]

Originally Posted by serena nisha sattar

who created the creator invisible that created everything in the dimension that we all live in?

what about the honest answer without any philosophy as
" we don't know "