Religious question about suicide

[bluepacific]

Originally Posted by braderjoe

No wonder the christian world has been experiencing a moral crisis with gay churches etc etc virtually anything goes...

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I'd rather agree with the Islamic concept of personal responsibilty. You get what you do...you are responsible for your own sins before God. No one bears your sins for you...not Jesus..not the priest..not anyone.

So what are you really saying
All those suicide bombers really get punished after all

[braderjoe]

Originally Posted by bluepacific

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As i was saying....as you can see those are individuals. So it cuts no dice with what is laid down in Islam. Its a sin in Islam and no amount of parades can alter that.

So what are you really saying
All those suicide bombers really get punished after all

You can misquote what you like but suicide is a sin in Islam especially if carried out on civilian targets. But then so is carpet bombing or napalm or H-bombs or artillery fire on civilians etc... Get my drift?

[bluepacific]

Originally Posted by braderjoe

You can misquote what you like but suicide is a sin in Islam especially if carried out on civilian targets. But then so is carpet bombing or napalm or H-bombs or artillery fire on civilians etc... Get my drift?

Difference is that I agree with that, but your side equally has nuclear weapons, fires artillary on civilians of your own religion, etc. As far as getting your drift, no I guess I don't since I see no difference between your religions. But Shiite Muslims did get the chemical drifts from their Sunni brothers back in the 1980s.

I guess military targets are okay. So what's the difference again between your belief and Christendom

[braderjoe]

Originally Posted by bluepacific

Difference is that I agree with that, but your side equally has nuclear weapons, fires artillary on civilians of your own religion, etc. As far as getting your drift, no I guess I don't since I see no difference between your religions. But Shiite Muslims did get the chemical drifts from their Sunni brothers back in the 1980s.

I guess military targets are okay. So what's the difference again between your belief and Christendom

The drift is - not to make wholesale judgment. What might seem religious could actually be political or cultural. Thank you.
The only difference is that, except for Al-Jazeera, muslims don't control the media, so.....1+1=5 in the medias' eyes.

[bluepacific]

Originally Posted by braderjoe

The drift is - not to make wholesale judgment. What might seem religious could actually be political or cultural. Thank you.
The only difference is that, except for Al-Jazeera, muslims don't control the media, so.....1+1=5 in the medias' eyes.

But did'nt you make a wholesale judgement about Christianity accepting gay and an anything goes lifestyle ??? I think neither Christendom or Islam have any business in politics or war, but that's just my opinion based on what the Bible actually says.

[e.ortega]

Originally Posted by Bigg Mann

Since suicide is considered a sin, what is it if you were in a burning highrise building and no way out, do you jump out window and commit suicide or stay and suffer immensely.

In Gods eyes is it really suicide?

I don't feel it is considered suicide because your not INTENTIONALLY trying to take your life away because you do not want to continue living your merely trying to ESCAPE from a deadly situation and PANIC has now taken over. Whether your going to die inside from the flames and suffer immensely like you say or jump and still die some might think at that point " I just might make it and even if I don't I am not going to stay in here and become burnt toast".

It's not SUICIDE because your not taking your life from being MISERABLE your trying either to SAVE YOURSELF SOMEHOW or find a better way then SUFFER TO THE EXTREME.