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06-12-2009, 04:34 PM
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Miracles
Jesus showed man many miracles from raising of the dead to curing the sick. Lazarus after days of decay, Jesus raises him back to life. How is that possible? Miracles have been documented throughout history. Our Lady of Fatima another glorious time in history that showed man miracles. For those who don't believe in God and Jesus Christ, give a logical explanation to so many miracles in the history of man.
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06-12-2009, 05:05 PM
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People who do not believe in god or Jesus do not believe in the magic that is described in the bible.
IMO, depending on how you define it, calling something a miracle may simply mean you don't know how it happened and have given up looking for natural explanations.
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06-12-2009, 05:29 PM
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In order to actually document a miracle I would have to have some serious physical evidence before I could accept such a claim. Saying a bunch of people saw something isn't really documentation. There are hundreds of people in the Phoenix area who swear they saw a large triangular shaped UFO even though it was later proven to be military flares. That sort of thing is not reliable. For both Lazarus and Jesus I would need something that isn't possible to get and that's a complete forensics workup like you'd get at a crime scene. I would have to have DNA evidence that proved that a dead body has gone through the process of rigormortis and decomposition and also more DNA to prove that the resurrected body was in fact the same individual. We'll never have evidence like that for any event that has been declared to be a miracle because there isn't any.
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06-12-2009, 05:37 PM
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For both Lazarus and Jesus I would need something that isn't possible to get and that's a complete forensics workup like you'd get at a crime scene. I would have to have DNA evidence that proved that a dead body has gone through the process of rigormortis and decomposition and also more DNA to prove that the resurrected body was in fact the same individual. We'll never have evidence like that for any event that has been declared to be a miracle because there isn't any.
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Do you demand such extensive evidence for everything that you believe in?
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06-12-2009, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lionpainter
Jesus showed man many miracles from raising of the dead to curing the sick. Lazarus after days of decay, Jesus raises him back to life. How is that possible? Miracles have been documented throughout history. Our Lady of Fatima another glorious time in history that showed man miracles. For those who don't believe in God and Jesus Christ, give a logical explanation to so many miracles in the history of man.
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Since you ask atheists on miracles, do the lions you paint give birth to baby gazelles? 
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06-12-2009, 06:18 PM
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Salt & Light wrote:
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Do you demand such extensive evidence for everything that you believe in?
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Yes, unless it is self evident that something such as gravity is very real and I don't need to jump off my roof to prove it.
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06-12-2009, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Lionpainter
Jesus showed man many miracles from raising of the dead to curing the sick. Lazarus after days of decay, Jesus raises him back to life. How is that possible? Miracles have been documented throughout history. Our Lady of Fatima another glorious time in history that showed man miracles. For those who don't believe in God and Jesus Christ, give a logical explanation to so many miracles in the history of man.
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Shoot!!! dat ain't nuthin'!!! Sysifus has been pushing that rock up that hill for thousands of years. Hercules dragged the river over to the aegean stables to clean it out and every morning prometheus gets his liver eated out of him as he is chained to the rocks and can not get away. But Dedalus flying on those wax and feather wings is just amazing! Actually, what is a miracle to one man is mythology to another.
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06-12-2009, 10:45 PM
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Since you ask atheists on miracles, do the lions you paint give birth to baby gazelles? 
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Actually, I've only painted Tigers and only one. But, I am a Lion for I am a Leo. And, I just happen to be named after My Father, and My Mother's name is Mary.
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06-12-2009, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dusty Rhodes
Shoot!!! dat ain't nuthin'!!! Sysifus has been pushing that rock up that hill for thousands of years. Hercules dragged the river over to the aegean stables to clean it out and every morning prometheus gets his liver eated out of him as he is chained to the rocks and can not get away. But Dedalus flying on those wax and feather wings is just amazing! Actually, what is a miracle to one man is mythology to another.
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You are Wrong! Have you study any of these miracles? Like Our Lady of Fatima. Those events happened in modern times, relatively speaking. And what about the coal miners from Pennsylvania that were stuck underground? Or the flight that landed in the Hudson.
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06-12-2009, 11:20 PM
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It seems to me that the Father has made a statement. Pittsburgh the City of Champions! Congrats Pens. My hometown. How is it that a man who claims to be the Son of Man, who is named after his Father and his Mother's name is Mary, who happens to carry the same name as the "Roman" Catholic Church" is asking people to believe that Christ exist today and the Father, especially after everything I have said. Are you so blind that you can't even see the obvious?
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