Why are you an Atheist today? (genesis, Earth, science, evidence)

[Nea1]

Because no one has proven me wrong.

[MontanaGuy]

I feel the same way as Predos. What initially caused me to become an atheist was simply by reading the Bible. That's why I keep it in the fiction section of my bookcase.

[Dusty Rhodes]

Originally Posted by jackdonekings

How on earth will you be an atheist today? During this time when science itself is discovering the unexplainable. Why would our consciousness spontaneously happen, the organize planets that orbit around the stars, then the solar systems are orbiting and so is our galaxies, like something caused it to happen.

Why would we ourselves be an accident, when our thoughts operate as antennas generating at different frequencies, why is there the law of gravity and the polarities of atoms.

Scientist can't even create life but you still believe we spontaneously happen, life gives life i thought you knew

i thought you knew wisdom comes from the higher source, Truly our complex brain has receptors that generate thought in a form of frequency, we create our days through our thoughts and if we getting bad luck we cannot blame God but us. There is a God in charge of the universal laws the an accident cannot govern itself.

There is a cause for a everything, there is a reason why our bodies have red blood cells, white blood cells and non are an accident and that counts for this universe, The cause was not accidental but has reasons of all reason

Dude!!! fundamentalists are not a good source of credible information, unless you take the bible seriously, and even then I would suspect their interpretation to be a bit one sided. Granted, Atheists will also have a one-sided interpretation, but, by-in-large it will be thought out, not accepting mythology as truth. Science will never tell you what to believe or not to believe, it will present you with facts and allow you to draw your own conclusions. Science can show you verifiable truth, religion gives outdated opinion.

[moetman]

Jackdonekings, the key reason why atheists don't accept the possibility of intelligent design is not because of alternative plausible scientific explanations. It is because if they accept the possibility of ID the whole premise of their world view is shattered. In reality the wholesale rejection of ID is in fact the most unscientific position of all because they have closed off one avenue of enquiry, even though there is mounting evidence that neo-Darwinian evolution looks likely to be a failure in accounting for macro-evolution. Evolution can only be observed scientifically where it accounts for minor variation within a “kind” as per the general principles of Darwin’s natural selection, and only where there is no requirement for increased information (i.e. the organism, plant, animal has the ability to subtly change functional components as an adaptive mechanism to changes in environmental factors, however a new “kind” is not the end product just the same “kind” utilising the limitations of its own genetic information). If somebody can show just one piece of real evidence of macro-evolution then I will be the first to convert. And atheists don’t turn the argument around to try and put the obligation of evidence on the theists, just show the real evidence so we can accept it and happily move along. Thanks

[sanspeur]

Originally Posted by moetman

Jackdonekings, the key reason why atheists don't accept the possibility of intelligent design is not because of alternative plausible scientific explanations. It is because if they accept the possibility of ID the whole premise of their world view is shattered. In reality the wholesale rejection of ID is in fact the most unscientific position of all because they have closed off one avenue of enquiry, even though there is mounting evidence that neo-Darwinian evolution looks likely to be a failure in accounting for macro-evolution. Evolution can only be observed scientifically where it accounts for minor variation within a “kind” as per the general principles of Darwin’s natural selection, and only where there is no requirement for increased information (i.e. the organism, plant, animal has the ability to subtly change functional components as an adaptive mechanism to changes in environmental factors, however a new “kind” is not the end product just the same “kind” utilising the limitations of its own genetic information). If somebody can show just one piece of real evidence of macro-evolution then I will be the first to convert. And atheists don’t turn the argument around to try and put the obligation of evidence on the theists, just show the real evidence so we can accept it and happily move along. Thanks

Evidence? There is lots of evidence for evolution, but be honest, because you don't want evidence, you just want your fairy tales to be true.

[moetman]

Bring the real evidence sanspeur. Convert me.

[sanspeur]

Originally Posted by moetman

Bring the real evidence sanspeur. Convert me.

Not possible, because you have your mind made up with no evidence at all. In any case this thread is about why you are an atheist....Which you are obviously not. Atheism is not synonymous with evolutionist in any case.

[moetman]

I place my hand over my heart and give a solemn promise that I will give honest appraisal to any piece of real evidence you may choose to bring. I will try my best to keep an open mind.

I agree that atheism is not synonymous with evolutionary theory. The two are neither mutually inclusive or exclusive.

However, the OP was clearly hinting at ID or a creator in his discourse, therefore I feel this line is consistent with the thread topic. After all isn't the search for truth all thats important.

[moetman]

There doesn't seem to be anyone willing to bring forward the evidence.

[sanspeur]

Originally Posted by moetman

There doesn't seem to be anyone willing to bring forward the evidence.

Try the forum search feature. There are many threads on evolution, ( This is not one of them) and lots of evidence for it....Strange that there is none for ID isn't it?.....Failing that, a simple search online will be rewarding, if you are able to weed out the biased sites.