Why are you an Atheist today? (divorce, philosophy, demons, create)

[JustNobody]

c'est la vie
"It should be quite evident that our physical universe had a beginning point (i.e. it is not eternal)"
Evident to whom? My memory doesn't go back that far, does yours? We don't know the extent of the universe nor can we be certain on its ultimate fate.

"otherwise entropy would have long since taken it's toll."
2nd law of thermodynamics- the entropy of the universe increases in all natural processes. that law may hold true for the certain conditions we find in our planet, but may not hold in extreme conditions like those found in a black hole. This law was a little over hundred years ago and was written before the discovery of dark matter and dark energy and before quantum physics entered into the picture.

"So, our physical universe was caused by something apart from itself"
You had this conclusion in mind from the very beginning. Using an entropy argument for the creation of the physical universe really doesn't work.

"limit the type of evidence you will accept to natural"
What other evidence do you have in mind? If you have supernatural evidence, please present it.

"You cannot 'prove' what I ate for lunch a week ago Thursday"
Possibly not, but I could prove what you ate just recently by looking at your bloodwork and digestive track. And their are clues to what you have eatten recently in your cells and hair and such.

"You cannot 'scientifically' prove that I thought about clouds yesterday. Does that mean I didn't."
I can ask you questions and look at your brain activity to see whether you are lieing or telling the truth.

"Do you love your mom? Can you 'prove' it? No."
Look at brain activity again. The brain lights up differently. Ask someone about their mom and how they feel about them and look at the brain activity and you have your answer. Hate, love, anger, contempt, sadness, pain, they all look different in pictures of the brain.

[c'est la vie]

Originally Posted by JustNobody

Look at brain activity again. The brain lights up differently. Ask someone about their mom and how they feel about them and look at the brain activity and you have your answer. Hate, love, anger, contempt, sadness, pain, they all look different in pictures of the brain.

So, do you only love your mom when your brain 'lights up'?

Is your love for your mom just an emotional response that happens occasionally?

If you told your mom "I only love you when I think about you and have a specific emotional response" , do you think she would consider that to be love?

[c'est la vie]

Originally Posted by Predos

What is the point in rehashing facts, when you have channelized your thought processes to reject anything that is inconvienent to you?

Oh yes, you are getting good at ignoring uncomfortable questions asked of you. Typical.

Example: Aren't you limiting your position by ignoring other possibilities? (Slightly paraphrased from message #53)

I skipped over it because it was not at all clear what you are referring to.

I'm not uncomfortable at all, and if you'd like to be more specific I'd be glad to try to give you an answer.

[coosjoaquin]

Originally Posted by c'est la vie

So, do you only love your mom when your brain 'lights up'?

Is your love for your mom just an emotional response that happens occasionally?

If you told your mom "I only love you when I think about you and have a specific emotional response" , do you think she would consider that to be love?

Aren't you answering your own questions here?

[Predos]

Originally Posted by c'est la vie

I skipped over it because it was not at all clear what you are referring to.

I'm not uncomfortable at all, and if you'd like to be more specific I'd be glad to try to give you an answer.

Questing your own question/statement. If you can't understand that, it explains a lot about you.

[c'est la vie]

Originally Posted by Predos

Questing your own question/statement. If you can't understand that, it explains a lot about you.

Yes, I made several statements and a question. But your reply wasn't at all clear which of those you referred to.

I'm sure it was clear to you, but that didn't come across in what you wrote.

Take this in the spirit that it is intended.

I've posted a long time on various forums, and it can be difficult on the internet to make one's meaning clear.

Emphasis, inflection, tone, etc are all difficult to convey in this setting.

Take a moment, breathe deeply and try again.

Don't come out spoiling for a fight where there is none.

[Predos]

Originally Posted by c'est la vie

Yes, I made several statements and a question. But your reply wasn't at all clear which of those you referred to.

I'm sure it was clear to you, but that didn't come across in what you wrote.

Take this in the spirit that it is intended.

I've posted a long time on various forums, and it can be difficult on the internet to make one's meaning clear.

Emphasis, inflection, tone, etc are all difficult to convey in this setting.

Take a moment, breathe deeply and try again.

Don't come out spoiling for a fight where there is none.

Once again, your understand is failing you. Simple statements that you decide mean something else (kind of like the buybull) and you continue to argue to only your point.

Try thinking prior to posting...you will get less opposition and maybe someone will even agree with you, sometime.

[c'est la vie]

Originally Posted by Predos

Once again, your understand is failing you. Simple statements that you decide mean something else (kind of like the buybull) and you continue to argue to only your point.

Try thinking prior to posting...you will get less opposition and maybe someone will even agree with you, sometime.

My post (#53) had two parts to it.

Your response did not reference which part you were referring to.

It is not my fault if your vague answer hindered a response to your question at the end.

Dodge responsibility all you want, but the fault is your own.

Your ad homs do nothing to change it.

[Predos]

Originally Posted by c'est la vie

My post (#53) had two parts to it.

Your response did not reference which part you were referring to.

It is not my fault if your vague answer hindered a response to your question at the end.

Dodge responsibility all you want, but the fault is your own.

Your ad homs do nothing to change it.

Being intentionally "unaware" again? Your circular arguements are really getting boring.

[c'est la vie]

You are most welcome to stop responding if you are bored.

But you seem pretty busy CYA.

If you want an answer to the question you posted, you need to be sure that it's clear what you are referring to. Simple as that.

I'll keep pointing it out just as long as you wish to embarrass yourself.