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Old 07-05-2009, 10:15 PM
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Default Where did good come from?

According to evolutionist we were once "wild" people....survival of the fittest...so, this, naturally would explain why people are not so nice. But if we came about as the "big bang" theorist say...then where did good come from?
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Simple.....group survival.
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Have you ever watched a group of chimps grooming each other...There's an old saying..."if you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" Good comes naturally.
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According to evolutionist we were once "wild" people....survival of the fittest...so, this, naturally would explain why people are not so nice. But if we came about as the "big bang" theorist say...then where did good come from?
Wait... do you think those two theories are the same?


There are a lot of behaviours we consider "good" that improve our odds of survival and reproduction. Don't kill inside your tribe. Protect the babies. Loan food to those in need and pay back your own debt (you'd be surprised how developped this tactic is in some species).
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How about "Where did usually good excluding rare circumstances in which it could be bad or bad excluding rare circumstances in which it could be good or sometimes not very clear as to whether it is good or bad come from?"
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evolution never happened.

There is none good but God.
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There are a lot of behaviours we consider "good" that improve our odds of survival and reproduction. Don't kill inside your tribe. Protect the babies. Loan food to those in need and pay back your own debt (you'd be surprised how developped this tactic is in some species).
This is well said, assuming the OP meant good as in not killing from your own tribe and such. We see this "good" behavior in many species. Humans don't have the monopoly on it.
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According to evolutionist we were once "wild" people....survival of the fittest...so, this, naturally would explain why people are not so nice. But if we came about as the "big bang" theorist say...then where did good come from?
What? Seriously? So where in the OT are people "good"?! They were barbaric! Adam and Eve were supposedly given 1 rule...don't eat the fruit! They were kicked out for breaking that rule right? So did you ever notice that they were never given any other rules?! They lived in an anything goes world! So even in the Bible you'd have to ask...."Up till Jesus came..where did good come from?"
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I think this video explains the OP quite well...


YouTube - Why do people laugh at creationists? (part 29)
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Simple.....group survival.
What about individual survival?

Isn't evolution all about the strong surviving and supplanting the weak?

Evolution isn't scientific because of the unfalsifiable manner in which it's supporters frame the hypothesis.

'Evolution is the cause of behavior that enhances individual survival....except when it's not.'

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