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05-09-2007, 10:06 AM
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"status" from Dale Carnegie
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dreameyes...kudos to you for taking the time to do the things you do on these posts!!
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05-09-2007, 10:33 AM
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Celestial Wannabe
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Thankyou Molly
but I really must say I've seen some people on here give great, detailed, researched responses and it's really great to see! When I first came on here I asked a questions about something (totally non related to this) and someone actually found some websites for me to look at and I'm sure as you've seen this goes on all the time. I just think how great to go out of your way to help someone else with a question! 
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05-09-2007, 10:27 PM
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I Tim1:15-17
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Who is Jesus?
OK guys....here's the most important thing you can share with me....
Who is Jesus?
To Mormons, first, but then I'd like to know if you have any thoughts regarding Him outside of official church stances.
Talk to me about His atonement, His role in Salvation, etc...
Especially highlight what you think Mormons may believe about Jesus that could be considered 'counter' to what mainstream Christians believe about Him.
I won't elaborate anymore until I see some of your responses...and thanks so much for this participating here. I'm learning much! 
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05-09-2007, 11:47 PM
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Celestial Wannabe
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha8207
To Mormons, first, but then I'd like to know if you have any thoughts regarding Him outside of official church stances.
Talk to me about His atonement, His role in Salvation, etc...
Especially highlight what you think Mormons may believe about Jesus that could be considered 'counter' to what mainstream Christians believe about Him.
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Who is Jesus?
Boy is that a whopper of a question.
Jesus was born of the virgin Mary in Bethlehem. Raised by Mary and Joseph the carpenter. Not too much is known of his boyhood. He performed many miracles while on earth, taught principles of salvation to me and was eventually crucified by the Jews for his decleration of being the Son of God. He suffered for the sins of the world in Gethsemane. He died on the cross, was laid in a sepulchre and was raised by God on the third day. He is our Savior, Redeemer and King. He is the Prince of Peace. He is our greatest teacher. He will be our judge at the last day. There are many, many adjectives that can be used to describe our Savior but I think one of the most important is kind and loving friend. Through Him and only through Him can we gain exaltation. He is the mediator between us and God. It is in His name that we pray to the Father. Jesus Christ has a resurrected, perfected body and dwells in the heavens on the right hand of God; His Father and ours. We believe that Jesus Christ is our elder Brother and Brother to all those that sojourn on this earth.
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05-10-2007, 12:23 AM
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Old Flatfoot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha8207
OK guys....here's the most important thing you can share with me....
Who is Jesus?
To Mormons, first, but then I'd like to know if you have any thoughts regarding Him outside of official church stances.
Talk to me about His atonement, His role in Salvation, etc...
Especially highlight what you think Mormons may believe about Jesus that could be considered 'counter' to what mainstream Christians believe about Him.
I won't elaborate anymore until I see some of your responses...and thanks so much for this participating here. I'm learning much! 
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As far as I know, there is only one difference between mainstream Christian and LDS beliefs regarding Christ. LDS believe that there are three distinct personages in the Godhead, God the Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. In short, Jesus is not God the Father, but he is our Lord and Savior. All of His doings are under the direction of His Father.
As far as my personal feelings regarding Christ are concerned, I am thankful He loved me enough to take upon Himself the sins of the world. I realize I am in His debt and must conduct myself in such a manor so as to show Him I truly love and appreciate all He has and will do for me.
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05-10-2007, 12:38 AM
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Why Me Lord?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dreameyes
Hi kawpgz; I just thought you might like to read these since you seem interested:
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Thanks Dreameyes...that had to take you quite some time! I really appreciate all of the info!
It sounds like the Adventists doctrine is pretty similar to other main streams like Baptist etc...with a few exceptions of course.
Thanks again! I have a pretty good understanding of the differences now
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Originally Posted by ellemaew
Adventists believe that the only source for doctrine is the Bible. While there is a prophet, her writings are only supposed to be used to support/clarify the doctrines found in the Bible, not replace or modify them.
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Thanks to you as well! That really helped to shed a bit more light on things!
I love this forum! It's full of people that are willing to give their time to help others understand.
Again...THANK YOU!
Alpha...I am really sorry this kind of got a bit off topic for you
Ok....now......the rest of the story......lol
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05-10-2007, 09:10 AM
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Celestial Wannabe
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You're welcome kawpgz, I found the info. quite interesting also. Unfortunately I think I did a boo boo  in posting it; I think I shoulda just posted the link. This copyright thing is outta hand. I never thought about it cause I've seen lots of people posts quotes and things from other sources. I guess I did a bad.
Sorry to be off topic Alpha.  This is a wonderful thread!
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05-10-2007, 03:56 PM
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I Tim1:15-17
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No problem with the OT posts. I like this thread over here. Everyone seems to be truly seeking answers and offering answers as appropriate.
OK.
Do Mormons put God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit in some kind of heirarchy?
Is one more important than the other? Is one more holy than another?
Of course, to reiterate, I personally believe in the Trinitarian view of God. All three equal. All three the same. All three play various roles. I'm not arguing theology with you.
I just want to know how high you 'lift up' Christ. Is He to be as highly exalted as God? Almost?
You see my point, I hope! 
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05-10-2007, 04:50 PM
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Old Flatfoot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha8207
No problem with the OT posts. I like this thread over here. Everyone seems to be truly seeking answers and offering answers as appropriate.
OK.
Do Mormons put God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit in some kind of hierarchy?
Is one more important than the other? Is one more holy than another?
Of course, to reiterate, I personally believe in the Trinitarian view of God. All three equal. All three the same. All three play various roles. I'm not arguing theology with you.
I just want to know how high you 'lift up' Christ. Is He to be as highly exalted as God? Almost?
You see my point, I hope! 
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Hierarchy, Hmm, well, Jesus is the son of God the Father and does his will, so I suppose that makes him subservient to some degree. Then again, when do we finally become the equal of our fathers here? At some point we are on our own. The Holy Ghost is another issue. All I know is it is his job to testify of the Father and the Son and he too is a child of God, which denotes subservience to some degree.
We believe they are one in purpose, but not one entity. We believe they all think the same. Additionally, we believe they are so much alike that if you see the Son, you have seen the Father.
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05-10-2007, 10:56 PM
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I Tim1:15-17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SergeantL
Hierarchy, Hmm, well, Jesus is the son of God the Father and does his will, so I suppose that makes him subservient to some degree. Then again, when do we finally become the equal of our fathers here? At some point we are on our own. The Holy Ghost is another issue. All I know is it is his job to testify of the Father and the Son and he too is a child of God, which denotes subservience to some degree.
We believe they are one in purpose, but not one entity. We believe they all think the same. Additionally, we believe they are so much alike that if you see the Son, you have seen the Father.
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Is Jesus worthy of worship?
Do Mormons worship Jesus?
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