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09-02-2007, 09:17 PM
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What in the world does a persons color or nationality have to do with true love   In Gods eyes we are all equal.
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09-02-2007, 09:45 PM
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Enjoying the ride..
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What in the world does a persons color or nationality have to do with true love   In Gods eyes we are all equal.
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Not to mention mutts are usually healthier than pure breeds....oh wait this isn't the pet forum is it.  
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09-03-2007, 02:23 AM
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There is no teaching in any Lutheran church that says anything against interracial marriage.
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09-03-2007, 07:16 AM
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Not really. I take a similar stand with interracial marriage as I do homosexual marriage: I doubt God cares what two non-related adults do with their genitles. I also doubt God cares what two non-related white/black couples do together. It has nothing to do with accepting Christ.
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Yes, years ago there were so many who were against interracial unions. I think there was a fear of somehow meddling with God's gene pool.
Now, the same sort of religious 'logic' is being applied to gay marriages, which don't touch the human gene pool.
It is exceedingly strange to me, discovering that there are so many gays in political office and in the Catholic Church, that they are not more accepting of this as just another expression of humanity.
I don't think anyone makes a choice, really early in life, to be ostracized and rideculed by the rest of us in the way that gays are. How people think that this is a matter of choice is beyond me. I knew a gay guy, a boss, who went to 9 shrinks to 'cure' him, so his Italian dad, from the old country, would love him. I knew another who was left out of his families' will because he was gay unless he showed he was 'cured'. He was dating women to try to marry one, and because he was honest, he would tell them what the situation was. Another died early, was murdered. His folks, 'religious' people, did not have services and asked people to donate to some animal fund, not because they liked animals, but as a token of disrespect to their son.
It seems to me that the only 'sin against nature' here is that of parents rejecting the kids that God gave them.
God made so many animals gay. Why, do you think, would He make people the exception?
It's not contagious. I've met enough of them to know that.
I am sure that God loves gays and straights alike. I just wish people could find it in their hearts to be as accepting. We have no control over our children's sexual orientation. We do have control over our reaction to them.
Part of the reason why some gays are also 'strange' in other ways is living their entire lives apart from others, with secrets. Now THAT is not natural.
Yes, I think gayness is the new 'black'.
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10-23-2007, 01:56 AM
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Confused...
Hi! Thanks for this forum. I am actually going through thinking which one should I pick - that involved interracial and interfaith. I am dating a black guy which I know my parents and friends will have hard time to approve. And now, I met a new love interest but involves interfaith, half Jewish and half Muslim. Both of them are asking to move our relationships to the next level (close to marriage). So, since I can't decide, I don't know which one to pick...which troubles would I want to go through and fight for...be with a black guy and same faith or somebody that has different faith. I asked my parents which they prefer but though, they prefer the latter one they didn't really give me the right recommendations. And so, by reading this forum....it made me realized that I am being ignorant myself...so ignorant. My first boyfriend once mentioned "I am human being, too", knowing my doubts are from the beginning. True, we all came from one race...one human race...and so, all of the issues I mentioned above should not matter. And so, both of them should be treated equal....not by their race or religion. And so, I don't have to worry which one is better and worst than the other. It should be who I really care about and enjoy spending my time with.
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10-23-2007, 06:39 AM
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And so, I don't have to worry which one is better and worst than the other. It should be who I really care about and enjoy spending my time with.
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I think your question is answered right there.  Who cares what others think? If your family can't accept it, oh well - it's your life and your decision to make. Obviously we all care on some level about other's opinions, but you can't let it keep you from being happy... anyone who'd reject you based on this, probably isn't worth your attention in the first place. But at the same time, if being with somebody makes your life difficult or frustrating, you should evaluate how deep the love is (if it can "conquer all," so to speak). Good luck!
P.S. I'm Caucasian/Jewish, and most of my relationships have been with men of other races... and I've NEVER dated a Jewish man, even though I'd be more than happy to!
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10-23-2007, 08:11 AM
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What in the world does a persons color or nationality have to do with true love   In Gods eyes we are all equal.
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Exactly. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, ....... for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
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10-23-2007, 10:47 AM
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If you have a problem with it it's not a religious one it's a personal one.
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Not always. The Nation of Islam teaches that miscegenation is a sin. So do certain offshoots of the British Israel movement within Christianity.
Since I have no religion, I have nothing to say about this topic for myself. However, I notice that the thread asks if your religious belief affects your view of the issue. It seems to me one's opinion could still be religious, even if it weren't what one's church happens to teach. It really depends on what you view as being a part of whatever your religion is. There's been a fuzzy line between the personal and the religious ever since the Protestant reformation, and with the ever-increasing number of novel interpretations of religious precepts, it's probably fuzzier now than it's ever been.
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10-23-2007, 10:54 AM
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I draw many parallels to interracial marriage and gay marriage.
Both represent a 'deviation' from the 'norm' - and were opposed by the majority of americans.
Both were fought against on religious grounds.
Both will eventually come to be so normal that those who oppose them will be members of the lunatic fringe.
In 100 years, gay marriage will be legal and commonplace in most of the civilized world.
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10-23-2007, 11:10 AM
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I will only hope that you are right.
My initial understanding is that people who have issues with interracial and gay marriage want to control the lives of others to conform to their way of thinking, and use our religious texts to do so.
Of course, the Old Testiment would instruct the people not to mix with this or that group, and that has been taken racially.
Perhaps we, through early history, took our tribal differences as racial, but now, as communications have improved, we are understanding how alike we really are.
It is easy to toss arrows at a strange group across the lake, where you never venture, but when you work next to such people daily and hear that many of their day to day issues are just like yours, it is hard not to sympathize with them.
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