The GReat Contriversy (Catholic, God, Christians, believe)

[GCSTroop]

Personally, if someone is aspiring to convince me of their superior mental method for deducing the age of the universe and/or Earth, it would do a lot of good to spell the word "controversy" correctly.

Perhaps it's the wrong approach but I have such a difficult time trusting the claims of someone who feels an idea is controversial when they cannot even spell the word "controversy" or properly capitalize the name of their thread.

If the most simplistic of details are so easily overlooked, how can I even begin to trust this person as to having properly analyzed any data - scientific or not - with proper scrutiny?

[Rafius]

Sometimes you can only shake your head and wonder!!

[hljc]

I find the need of old earth debate in strife with the young age earth, as totally dangerous to the speading of the gospel and what Christians are called to do in the earth by the Great Commision for Salvation to the Lord God...I find the creation of Adam and Eve as more important to the knowledge of Jesus Christ..... And Adam as the first to have a relationship with the Lord God and the creation injustices as out of the will of God and his purposes in the earth.........Christianity will never win the debate on creation vs.evolution until Jesus Comes and end this Age and gives us a New Age because of the unforgivness walls that are holding Heaven back......

[11thHour]

Originally Posted by OhioanKid

I'll laugh when, in two hundred years or so, they perfect time travel or something (surely future medicine can make us live that long!) and go back, oh, about 7000 years.

I though creationists didn't trust science. How can you hope for science to discover time travel on one hand while saying they are not to be trusted on the other hand?

[hortysir]

Originally Posted by Konraden

Let's see.

Since the "clocks" this goon is talking about refers to radiometric dating, I'll cover those first.

Debunked Creationist claims about radiometric dating.
CD001: Geochronometry and closed systems
CD002: Geochronology and initial conditions
CD004: Cosmic rays and radiometric decay rates
CD010: Radiometric Dating
CD012: U-Th dating of modern rocks
CD013: K-Ar dating of modern rocks.
CD020: Selective reporting of dating results

And an overview of the age of Earth and how we know.
The Age of the Earth

Mitochondrial Eve
CB621.1: Young mitochondrial Eve
What, if anything, is a Mitochondrial Eve?

By all means, you can read all about the frequently debunked crap that Creationists put up.
Evidence against a recent creation - RationalWiki
An Index to Creationist Claims

Of course, for more on why it's ludicrous...
YouTube - potholer54's Channel
Creation "Science" Debunked
TalkOrigins Archive: Exploring the Creation/Evolution Controversy

This is a common talking point in the religion forum for obvious reasons. It is not a debate but a continuance of ignorance.

Again....

These are all links to the same site.

Any secondary sources that verify these claims?

[Konraden]

Originally Posted by hortysir

Again....

These are all links to the same site.

Any secondary sources that verify these claims?

Click one, note the extensive use of references.

[hortysir]

All I'm seeing is "talkorigins.org"

[OhioanKid]

Originally Posted by 11thHour

I though creationists didn't trust science. How can you hope for science to discover time travel on one hand while saying they are not to be trusted on the other hand?

I'm not a creationist. I'm Catholic. Catholics aren't creationists....

[hortysir]

Re-e-e-e-e-eeeellllyyyY???

[OhioanKid]

...What was the point of that reply?