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Who should have died? God the Father or God the Son?
John 3:35
The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
John 5:19
Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
In our human world, it is custom for fathers to readily die for their children.
Given the choice, I do not know of any man that would not willingly save his son’s life by giving up his own. After all, we live for our children.
We often say that the sons should bury the fathers and consider it a great breach of the norm and an injustice for fathers to have to bury their sons.
If, on earth as it is in heaven has any meaningful truth to it, should God the Father not be the one to willingly die for His son?
If God is to be our example, are most of us ignoring His example and in that way breaking the first commandment by putting our own desires over His and thus placing some other idea above Him?
Actually, it speaks more to European cultural expectations than real morality issues. Jesus sacrificed himself for the glory of his father, his lord and master, just as in traditional European culture, where the father was master of his family and his wife/children were expected to always follow and defer to him without question with the assumption the father will always act in the family's best interest. Another good example of expectations of fatherhood in old Europe is the film Padre Padrone:
Also, look at the French Ostal system and other holdouts from traditional Europe, modern day remnants of the fires that forged Christianity as we know it today. People assume there is a lot of Hebrew culture in the good book, but as it turns out it is mostly 2000 years of Europe's ideas, both good and bad.
Actually, it speaks more to European cultural expectations than real morality issues. Jesus sacrificed himself for the glory of his father, his lord and master, just as in traditional European culture, where the father was master of his family and his wife/children were expected to always follow and defer to him without question with the assumption the father will always act in the family's best interest. Another good example of expectations of fatherhood in old Europe is the film Padre Padrone:
Also, look at the French Ostal system and other holdouts from traditional Europe, modern day remnants of the fires that forged Christianity as we know it today. People assume there is a lot of Hebrew culture in the good book, but as it turns out it is mostly 2000 years of Europe's ideas, both good and bad.
Thanks for the history but that does not speak to you in the here and now.
Who should have died? God the Father or God the Son?
John 3:35
The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
John 5:19
Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
In our human world, it is custom for fathers to readily die for their children.
Given the choice, I do not know of any man that would not willingly save his son’s life by giving up his own. After all, we live for our children.
We often say that the sons should bury the fathers and consider it a great breach of the norm and an injustice for fathers to have to bury their sons.
If, on earth as it is in heaven has any meaningful truth to it, should God the Father not be the one to willingly die for His son?
If God is to be our example, are most of us ignoring His example and in that way breaking the first commandment by putting our own desires over His and thus placing some other idea above Him?
Regards
DL
Who should have died? Neither. His death was meaningless. God can forgive anyone of their sins at any time. He also could do away with the hell that he created (if he really wanted all to be saved).
Yes like sticks of butter to flowering fields
of man like beasts rampaging through
space. So glad that your sadness and villians
have trumped the fool sliding down the religious
circle slide.
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