Originally Posted by imanway
my post is for Christians here , allow me
I would offer this book "What did Jesus ( peace be upon him ) really say" ?
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_books/signal/en_what_did_jesus_really_say.pdf (broken link)
I think What Jesus said is in some way common knowledge, to those who seek truth...Truth is constant....and so Jesus who spoke about God...and God being truth of the one who sent him, to enforce and make known the errors being done by humankind, and to try to change the direction humakind was taking with the idol told not to make....which in this case was currency...the Roman coin, the Jewish Coin, the Eygptian coin...etc.
All engraven ...All breaking a commandment of God.
So it is not what he said...although it bares weight to the Truth.
It is what he did do...the act...that brings us to the question of why he did what he did...
And it is only to perfects the human form under those commandments of God...completely honoured by someone.
and Jesus says...he adds one more...Love each other as I have loved you....which corrects the errors if we follow...Jesus came to correct us...and help us perfect ourselves in accordance to the commandments!
For to kill is a sin..no matter who or why.
And that perfects when we stop killing.
And the idol God said not to bring before him...was brought before Jesus...and they asked about the tax of Rome...
Jesus said show me the denari...and they presented it out of their pockets to show Jesus....And what did Jesus do then?
He looked away from it....and upto God...and said who's title is on it?
Because he did not look at it.....and they proclaimed Caesar's.
Jesus then said "Give onto Caesar what belongs to Caesar and hold it no longer, and Give onto God what belongs to God (Honouring the commandments)....So the commandment about Idolatry is being pointed at here!
And Jesus in the final act...Kicks out the money changers and sellers from his fathers house...saying your making a den of robbers and thieves!
For if God has Given everything to everyone....then there is no need to buy and sell....we share like God shares!
See...Jesus shared the fish and the bread and the waters...
That shows something in not only what was said...because Just words do nothing on their own.
it is when we act on those words that something comes to be.
So the act of Jesus fulfilling the intire Commandment, Justifies him as one of God's children...if he restores the seed, obeys the commandments, honours the precepts, and shows forgiveness of sins...when they stop sinning...
This is most interesting to ponder.
And in the end...they murdered him, to silence the word of truth about it.
Now look at the world and its estates...and the oppression, the sanctions, the poverty, the wars, the death, and the woes and wrath that is coming for the bent and evil institutions that have everyone sinning, and evils for $$$ and the lies to make all this possible...while prohibiting certain plants God said were Good...and making those who sow them the bad Guys...while the filthy and evil abound is foolish pride and glory in killing those who stand against them....
Is this what Jesus wanted?....No.
So we can conclude, after reading the Bible and pondering the messages there in...that a certain state of mind is in play.
When we have truth of God...we find things in this world out of context with the idea of sharing everything with everybody is the only solution to world peace.
And taking care of the planet by sowing and tending to the planets base eco systems is paramount...so tend and keep the garden...is by far the truest form of Truth...if we want to continue on in time.
So we have a mass of people who are now supposedly intelligent to some degree...and they claim they have master degrees in different fields.
If we tend and keep the garden with all seeds...we should do well in caring for the eco systems when done in a certain way.
And that is to restore the plant that was taken in disobediance, sinlessly.
Now such a simple request...and yet no one is trying to do that.
To reverse the curse of death...is to reverse the way in which it was brought about.
Now those who study things...have to go back in time...by reading...and trying to puzzel together what Jesus was trying to do.
Is it any onder why the Mount of Olives (a garden) is mentioned as a Place where Jesus freqented and also sowed seeds..?
I tell you if we read acts:3:21 and 10:15 we see words telling us not to profane anything God made Good or clean...and the universal Restoration of something that was, is not, and is to come.
Using what instruments?...Plow sheers, and pruning hooks...
So we have that to surmise and fanthom...a Garden estate that is in compliance with EDEN's natural nature!...ALL PLANTS PUT IN ORDER MAKES A GARDEN> nothing omitted, nothing taken away, nothing profaned!
This is what Jesus wanted, because it is what God wanted...
Now if we aline our endevours into that...and start cleaning up the garbage the bent system of idolatry is making of this planet....and we start now...we might be able to save it....Might?
But if it continues the way it is going...and it does not stop...we will be the ones who suffer in the end...for there should be no end with God.
Now here is something not too many Church speakers harp on.
That the blood of the life taken is for God, and his accounting of the dead thing taken...it is to be poored out over the altar and left to go into the ground...we are not to touch it.
Now look...they are sucking it up and burning the hydrocarbons into the air...and waters...and into the soils....this cause cancer and other ailments to arise...and now it is spewing into the waters unmixed and pure....and we see shame on them who do this...but do we lay blame on those who buy it?...for some of the blame is on those who use it and burn it....
Again doing the opposite of what God has said...seems to be the normal estate of humakind.
So does it matter what Jesus said...or what God said...if we do not listen to truth...commonsense...logics...knowledge...and wisdom?
For we know polluting the planet is not Good...and yet here we are doing that very thing.
SO we have enough knowledge now...(forgive them they know not what they do) and we can draw lines as to what is being done wrong, and in mockery of God...doing the opposites of what was said to do, or not do.
And we see the outcomes of that as desaster, and destruction.....
OH it is even written in the Bible, for that is what comes of the disobediant ones....eventually...to the lake of fire?...gulf of mexico?
Now look onto the earth with open eyes...and see the evils...the woe and the wrath....and draw lines.
Then stand out of the sins of them...and make a more defind and truthful stament with your actions for a better world order under God and Jesus..and in making EDENS which would be the multiple of Eden...Right?
For these two things are showing face to face what comes for evil and sin...and we are learning the hard lesson, which is really oh so simple to do, that they have twisted and contorted and profaned, so no one tries, or cares...that one simple thing in the garden that is not being done, because they have made it against the law to grow or sow or have!
Again taking away the givens is robbery!...Your making a den of robbers and thieves...becomes truth...they have stollen the Earth and are selling it back to those it was given to...and it is being polluted to death in the mean time.
And eventually if this continues....the toxic shame of our endevours will kill the planet....there will be nothing left for anyone!...expirey date, and best before date is coming into view!