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Old 07-14-2010, 12:34 PM
 
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I wonder why you as an atheist rejects Islam, while Christianity and Judaism and Hinduism do not?
That's a fascinating assertion. Completely incorrect, but fascinating. If someone practices a particular religion, isn't that a de facto rejection of any other?
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Old 07-14-2010, 01:35 PM
 
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Did you know that Islam is a religion will not end? I know you will not believe, open GOGLE and read the statistics for the number of converts to Islam, IN Europe and America, Number of Muslims in the increase,

YOU WILL SEE BOTH WILL SEE , But I wonder why you as an atheist rejects Islam, while Christianity and Judaism and Hinduism do not?

Why focus on Islam, While millions of Muslims are peaceful and pleasant?!!
Yes, worldwide poverty and illiteracy grows, purposefully, in several areas of gross overpopulation and biased educational systems. Muslim governed areas. Governed by brutal thugs. What, you deny that?

You know, those wonderful places where all the children get to do all day is chant the Qu'Ran? No math, no science, no engineering. Q: ever wonder why these countries send all their wunderkind (the ones with families who must remain in Iran) to Western universities to try to obtain at least the basics of modern science and technologies that Islam has now lost forever?

And then these thug countries must blackmail them back home again with threats to their families, once the students have discovered the truth about Western lifestyles and knowledge? Huh?

Only "millions" of peace-loving Muslims? That's a pretty small percentage of the world's "billions" by my calculations. Too many Muslims cower under the thumb of their brutal political regimes; it's time to stand up and take your lives out of the hands of dogmatic religious dictators and imams.

(BTW, there's literally hundreds of millions of scientists, engineers and doctors, not to mention our generally educated Western public, most all of whom are atheists as a result of their thorough and advanced education or critical thinking and evaluations of Islam and other theisms. Exactly why advanced education is spurned by Islam.)

I don't focus on Islam. You or some other Muslim asked the question in the OP, or make some supercilious trolling comment that "Islam will be victorious!". You don't expect that silliness will go unchallenged, or evoke an irritated response from us democratic Westerners do you? Especially those who may have immigrated to the US from a socialist or theocratic country?

It has nothing to do with pure theism,which is bad enough on it's own, but rather the savage culture that has grown, like a toxic bacterial mould, from the assumptions made on behalf of that theocracy and thuggery.

There's always thugs, imanway. You either are naive, or you chose to ignore or defend their methods, or you're one of them, retained as a fifth columnist. Which is it?

After all, Hitler was a professed Christian, and the Crusades were led by Christians, and in Iran they claim to be god-loving and peaceful (laugh....).

All murderous evil thugs, the lot of them. And yet you seem to be supportive. Hmmm...
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Old 07-15-2010, 06:35 AM
 
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Did you know that Islam is a religion will not end? I know you will not believe, open GOGLE and read the statistics for the number of converts to Islam, IN Europe and America, Number of Muslims in the increase,


YOU WILL SEE BOTH WILL SEE , But I wonder why you as an atheist rejects Islam, while Christianity and Judaism and Hinduism do not?

Why focus on Islam, While millions of Muslims are peaceful and pleasant?!!
You are right Islam will not end. Any religion that missionizes will continue to get converts but Islam isn't growing because of converts its the birthrate. What will happen is those western countries who have problematic Muslim countries will wake up and either contain them or make them leave and those countries who are watching the activities of the Muslims in Europe will work to contain those sorts of activities in their countries.

Jews and Christians reject Islam.

I reject Islam.

People who have other religions or are not religious reject Islam.

I hope that at the first sign of Muslims wanting to change my country and its constitution that they are contained and asked to leave.
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Old 07-15-2010, 11:44 PM
 
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The only reason your numbers are increasing is not because of converts, but because you keep pumping out those babies, then brainwashing them..Muslims have more children per family than any other religion......Atheists reject Islam, but don't start feeling special just yet....Atheists reject ALL religions.

Anyhow, Muslims are increasing in number and the Islam will prevail in spite of you and all atheists.
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Old 07-15-2010, 11:49 PM
 
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That's a fascinating assertion. Completely incorrect, but fascinating. If someone practices a particular religion, isn't that a de facto rejection of any other?

You did not understand what he said:

You, atheists, oppose and strive against the Islam and against God, while you don't do that to other religions like the idolatry and consider it as traditions that should be respected.

The reason for that is that you are the enemy of God and the follower of the suggestions of Satan and his devils, while you are unaware of this.
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Old 07-15-2010, 11:54 PM
 
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Anyhow, Muslims are increasing in number and the Islam will prevail in spite of you and all atheists.
So this is an admission that you think and want Islam to rule the world, is it?
All I can say to that is....Only in your dreams.
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Old 07-15-2010, 11:56 PM
 
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You are right Islam will not end. Any religion that missionizes will continue to get converts but Islam isn't growing because of converts its the birthrate. What will happen is those western countries who have problematic Muslim countries will wake up and either contain them or make them leave and those countries who are watching the activities of the Muslims in Europe will work to contain those sorts of activities in their countries.

Jews and Christians reject Islam.

I reject Islam.

People who have other religions or are not religious reject Islam.

I hope that at the first sign of Muslims wanting to change my country and its constitution that they are contained and asked to leave.

Your trick is exposed.

Many people all over the world convert to the religion of Islam, and it is not only the birth rate as you assert.

So you speak about yourself: you reject the Islam, and God rejects you; it is you misfortue.

There was one of the presidents of USA in the past who wished to prevent Jews from coming to America (as do you wish concerning Muslims); he said: "Jews will corrupt our country by their economic tricks and their bars and dancing places and lottary ..etc."

Hasn't it been corrupted yet?
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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You did not understand what he said:

You, atheists, oppose and strive against the Islam and against God, while you don't do that to other religions like the idolatry and consider it as traditions that should be respected.

The reason for that is that you are the enemy of God and the follower of the suggestions of Satan and his devils, while you are unaware of this.
You are so out to lunch on this one....First of all Fred is NOT an atheist, and secondly as an atheist I dismiss all religions equally. Thirdly, I am not an enemy of god...I just do not believe there is such a thing...Fourth, satan, devils, and yes even god are no threat to me...They are powerless, all of them. If I'm wrong I call on god to strike me dead before another day has passed.....
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:05 AM
 
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In spite of you; so go and drown yourself in the river like some of the rancorous among your people, although many of them are kind-hearted and good men not like you.
All this because I disagree with you?
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:14 AM
 
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Yes, worldwide poverty and illiteracy grows, purposefully, in several areas of gross overpopulation and biased educational systems. Muslim governed areas. Governed by brutal thugs. What, you deny that?

You know, those wonderful places where all the children get to do all day is chant the Qu'Ran? No math, no science, no engineering. Q: ever wonder why these countries send all their wunderkind (the ones with families who must remain in Iran) to Western universities to try to obtain at least the basics of modern science and technologies that Islam has now lost forever?

And then these thug countries must blackmail them back home again with threats to their families, once the students have discovered the truth about Western lifestyles and knowledge? Huh?

Only "millions" of peace-loving Muslims? That's a pretty small percentage of the world's "billions" by my calculations. Too many Muslims cower under the thumb of their brutal political regimes; it's time to stand up and take your lives out of the hands of dogmatic religious dictators and imams.

(BTW, there's literally hundreds of millions of scientists, engineers and doctors, not to mention our generally educated Western public, most all of whom are atheists as a result of their thorough and advanced education or critical thinking and evaluations of Islam and other theisms. Exactly why advanced education is spurned by Islam.)

I don't focus on Islam. You or some other Muslim asked the question in the OP, or make some supercilious trolling comment that "Islam will be victorious!". You don't expect that silliness will go unchallenged, or evoke an irritated response from us democratic Westerners do you? Especially those who may have immigrated to the US from a socialist or theocratic country?

It has nothing to do with pure theism,which is bad enough on it's own, but rather the savage culture that has grown, like a toxic bacterial mould, from the assumptions made on behalf of that theocracy and thuggery.

There's always thugs, imanway. You either are naive, or you chose to ignore or defend their methods, or you're one of them, retained as a fifth columnist. Which is it?

After all, Hitler was a professed Christian, and the Crusades were led by Christians, and in Iran they claim to be god-loving and peaceful (laugh....).

All murderous evil thugs, the lot of them. And yet you seem to be supportive. Hmmm...
What's all this mixing, what's all this ignorance and deliberate ignoring the true from the false?

Now, when the word of God is told to many people all over the world whether Muslims or others; such word of God is denied because it is a matter of guidance.

God's guidance in the past and at the present is the rule to guide Mohammed and Ali and other Muslims, and on the other hand, God misguided many like Abu-Jahl and other disbelievers and atheists like you.

It has nothing to do with education or graduation or post-graduation: the believers may be more learned than you and many other atheists; so stop this repeated silly song.

The practice and customs in many Muslim countries have become (like the Western communities) far from God's commandments.

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