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Old 07-08-2010, 05:04 PM
 
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The Jewish people have always lived in that area, but to answer the OP, I think today the relationship between Israel and the US is mainly political.
We agree sanspeur . . . and "without fear" of contradiction!

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Old 07-08-2010, 05:52 PM
 
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much thanks to all of you for your informative replies.
i know a lot was waited in the big meeting in washington yesterday and it hightened this latent curiosity of mine instead of decreasing it.
thanks again. gotta be p.c. .
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Old 07-08-2010, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Kenmore, WA
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Have you ever considered the number of Jewish people we have voting in this country?

Do you REALLY think that people don't vote from their convictions, which are usually based in our religious beliefs?

There is no way to truly separate Church and State. The same people are members and supporters of both.
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Old 07-08-2010, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Have you ever considered the number of Jewish people we have voting in this country?
Five and a half, perhaps six million. There are many more blacks and Hispanics voting in this country than there are Jews...just in case you wanted something else to worry about.
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Old 07-08-2010, 10:15 PM
 
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well its both, anyway there are people in the USA would think it will be doomed and they also believe hurricane Katrina was due to an vengeful God becuase the government asked Isreal to withdraw from Gaza.

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Old 07-09-2010, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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well its both, anyway there are people in the USA would think it will be doomed and they also believe hurricane Katrina was due to an vengeful God becuase the government asked Isreal to withdraw from Gaza.
Let's see...who was President at the time Hurricane Katrina struck? I think we need to go back and re-assess government policy as regards hurricanes. Specifically, why hasn't our government made more of an effort to bring God into our corner, diplomatically speaking? Are we as Americans going to sit back and let God listen to Israel...to the exclusion of American interests? What if some other nation takes action in this area before we do? Then we're really going to be in a hot mess!
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Old 07-09-2010, 06:37 AM
 
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Have you ever considered the number of Jewish people we have voting in this country?

Do you REALLY think that people don't vote from their convictions, which are usually based in our religious beliefs?

There is no way to truly separate Church and State. The same people are members and supporters of both.

Watch out for all those Jews voting........
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Old 07-09-2010, 11:48 AM
 
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It seems that there is a need for this info..

Amorites, Canaanites, and other Semitic peoples related to the Phoenicians of Tyre entered the area about 2000 B.C. The area became known as the Land of Canaan.

The archeological record indicates that the Jewish people evolved out of native Cana'anite peoples and invading tribes. Some time between about 1800 and 1500 B.C., it is thought that a Semitic people called Hebrews (hapiru) left Mesopotamia and settled in Canaan.


During the seventh century (A.D. 600's), Muslim Arab armies moved north from Arabia to conquer most of the Middle East, including Palestine. Jerusalem was conquered about 638 by the Caliph Umar (Omar) who gave his protection to its inhabitants. Muslim powers controlled the region until the early 1900's. The rulers allowed Christians and Jews to keep their religions.

Brief History of of Palestine, Israel and the Israeli Palestinian Conflict (Arab-Israeli conflict, Middle East Conflict)

Yes the lands of Canaan...."Go into Canaan and take the seeds" While the JEWS out of Eygpt were in the wilderness...and no one wanted that land, for it was barren....and God brought forth water...

So we have soil, we have water, we have people, and we have God...and now the seed...

Do they need to kill the people in Canaan to take the lands from them?

NO!

Sow the seeds, make the wilderness tame, and grow and come to know and share with the neighbours...

Ah...that is not mentioned?....Read the 10 commandments!

"Do onto others as you would have done onto you"

Warfare kinda wipes that out now doesn't it?

"Do not covet thy neiighours wife, or anything that is thy neighbours"

Seems something was foretold them while they were in the wilderness by God and Moses...and others....

So this Promised land...was or could have been somewhere else.

Where was the Plant (Burning Bush) found By Moses?
Where is God's holy mountain?

I can assure you it is not in ISRAEL.

And what was taken in disobediance, and hatred, and human slaughter...will never stand under any righteousness...!

For God says he will shake the heavens and the Earth....and all things built on lies, and evils, and sin will fall!

So...I guess something should be done to correct the errors!

ANd that does not mean using weapons to protect it...it means giving back, and asking forgiveness!


And then doing what God has asked...to the letter of the law and laws of the lands....we make EDENS together!..and we share everything!

That is the only way!

and then..peace!...Holy Ground can be made anywhere at any time...by a sinless soul...sowing a simple seed....And that is something the UNITED STATES, AND HER FRIENDS WILL NOT LET YOU DO...wonder why?

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Old 07-09-2010, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Heart of Oklahoma
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Totally political.
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Old 07-10-2010, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Totally political.
Officially. But read through some of the threads in this forum, and also the Politics & Other Controversies. There are quite a few people out there who don't seem to think so.

(And to Jazzymom... voting Jews--oy vey! )
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