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Old 08-15-2010, 08:23 AM
 
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Believing in imaginary prophecies [none of which are to be found in the OT to offer any support] is just another symptom of bibleolatry derangement: the decline of reasoning.

"If bibliolaters would just once in their lives put aside all of their pet theories and take an objective look at the Bible, they would begin to see that the men who wrote the Old Testament were just ordinary religious zealots who thought that they and their people had been specifically chosen of God. The fanaticism with which they believed this led them to proclaim absurdly ethnocentric prophecies that history has proven wrong, much to the embarrassment of Bible fundamentalists who desperately want to believe that the Bible is the verbally inspired, inerrant word of God. They have no substantive proof on their side. All the proof declares very definitively to anyone who really wants to know the truth that the Bible is a veritable maze of nonsense and contradictions."

Prophecies: Imaginary and Unfulfilled







Theres nothing imaginary about it. Ezekiel 36:24 tells Israel that God will take His people out of the nations where they were scattered, and they will return to the land of Israel. And Ezekiel 38:8, states that all of this will happen in the latter years.

And I will repeat again, it is the wisdom of the Scriptures that is ending the AIDs Battle in Uganda. The world thinks that the AIDs problem is just a plumbing problem, and condoms are the answer. It is because the church has pushed Biblical abstinence in the country of Uganda, that their HIV infection rate has dropped by 50% between the years 1992, and 2000. All the other countries that have pushed condom use, have only made the HIV infection rate worse. Of course to understand this, requires a logical mind.
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Old 08-15-2010, 08:28 AM
 
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...(Campbell's) attitude, imposing of judgement and inability to be reasonable and logical is what I have a problem with.
To be expected from someone who actually beleives that Noah invited dinosaurs to join him for his little ocean cruise.
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Old 08-15-2010, 08:32 AM
 
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Theres nothing imaginary about it. Ezekiel 36:24 tells Israel that God will take His people out of the nations where they were scattered, and they will return to the land of Israel. And Ezekiel 38:8, states that all of this will happen in the latter years.

And I will repeat again, it is the wisdom of the Scriptures that is ending the AIDs Battle in Uganda. The world thinks that the AIDs problem is just a plumbing problem, and condoms are the answer. It is because the church has pushed Biblical abstinence in the country of Uganda, that their HIV infection rate has dropped by 50% between the years 1992, and 2000. All the other countries that have pushed condom use, have only made the HIV infection rate worse. Of course to understand this, requires a logical mind.
I'll ask again. Why do you keep choosing these opinion pieces from obviously biased websites when you could go directly to the World Health Organization itself for ACCURATE unbiased information?

Uganda - HIV/AIDS
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Old 08-15-2010, 08:36 AM
 
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Fantastic post! Reps to you.

Regarding parents of gay teenagers, here is a video of Patti Ellis -a devout Christian woman who's son Adam is gay. She tells her story to a crowd of marriage equality supporters:


YouTube - NOMTourTracker.com: Atlanta- Pro Equality speaker, Patti Ellis

The young gay man filming the video had this to say:

"During Patti’s speech the hair stood up on my arms as she spoke about the unconditional love that parents should have toward their children and the difficult time that her family experienced when her son Adam came out.

She told me that “when Adam come out of the closet, we went right in,†and when I asked her if she had any words of advice for mothers struggling with a child being gay she told me: “They need you now more than ever. Remember that moment when you dropped your son off at kindergarten, he didn’t question if you were going to be there to love him when he got home, now he questions that because society has him questioning that now.â€

“Go to your son and hug him,†she continued. “He’s still the same. Let him tell you his story…†I held it together during the interview, but when walked away I just lost it.




Leading your son off to kindergarten is one thing. Supporting your son as he gives the finger to God is something else again. And that is what gay people are doing, espically when gay people symbolically tell God we don't care about your commands, or your Book. If Patti was truly a devout Christian, she would support her son, but point out the error of his way.
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Old 08-15-2010, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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I'll ask again. Why do you keep choosing these opinion pieces from obviously biased websites when you could go directly to the World Health Organization itself for ACCURATE unbiased information?

Uganda - HIV/AIDS
Unbiased facts and information prove he's wrong. He agrees with the pope-condoms make the AIDS problem better not worse. Eventhough condoms 96% or higher effective, they somehow make AIDS worse.

http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/ind...416&Itemid=177

According to the study, it was the use of condoms not abstinance or biblical rules that led to the decline in HIV.
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Old 08-15-2010, 08:45 AM
 
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Leading your son off to kindergarten is one thing. Supporting your son as he gives the finger to God is something else again. And that is what gay people are doing, espically when gay people symbolically tell God we don't care about your commands, or your Book. If Patti was truly a devout Christian, she would support her son, but point out the error of his way.
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Old 08-15-2010, 08:47 AM
 
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Theres nothing imaginary about it. Ezekiel 36:24 tells Israel that God will take His people out of the nations where they were scattered, and they will return to the land of Israel. And Ezekiel 38:8, states that all of this will happen in the latter years.

And I will repeat again, it is the wisdom of the Scriptures that is ending the AIDs Battle in Uganda. The world thinks that the AIDs problem is just a plumbing problem, and condoms are the answer. It is because the church has pushed Biblical abstinence in the country of Uganda, that their HIV infection rate has dropped by 50% between the years 1992, and 2000. All the other countries that have pushed condom use, have only made the HIV infection rate worse. Of course to understand this, requires a logical mind.
You are so full of unadulterated crap, I hardly know where to start...It WAS NOT the scriptures that diminished AIDS infection in Uganda..( The battle has NOT ended) There is absolutely no mention of God or the scriptures in Uganda's education program for AIDS prevention.

The most important thing is that Uganda educated the people on AIDS, how it is contracted, and how to prevent becoming infected. In addition they dispelled the myths associated with aids...The most common one of these was that having sex with a virgin would cure a man of AIDS.

The ABC-method
After having been informed of how the disease is contracted and how it is not, the emphasis was shifted to ways of preventing the disease. The government initiated the ABC-method. This method has a unique approach, which has proved effective. In 1992 about 18% of the population was HIV-positive. In 2004 this percentage was estimated at 6,4%. Besides, at that time, all layers of the population knew about the disease.

It is president Museveni who introduced the ABC-method around 1997. He told the people that it is a duty to their home country to prevent contamination with the virus. This is why people have to abstain, from having sex until they are married and people have to (be faithful to their partners. However, should they 'commit the deed' or have more than one partner, they have to use (condoms. The message was spread loud and clear by means of radio programs and theatre groups. On large billboards various brands of condoms were advertised. Condoms are cheap and can be bought nearly everywhere.
The history of AIDS in Uganda
One of the billboards...

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Old 08-15-2010, 08:52 AM
 
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Theres nothing imaginary about it. Ezekiel 36:24 tells Israel that God will take His people out of the nations where they were scattered, and they will return to the land of Israel. And Ezekiel 38:8, states that all of this will happen in the latter years.
So then, it follows that "god" created Adolph Hitler, Nazi Germany and the Holocaust to fulfill his "prophecy".

Nice job!

6 million senseless murders. Sounds about right for your hallucinogenic, freaky monster-god.
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Old 08-15-2010, 09:01 AM
 
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I'll ask again. Why do you keep choosing these opinion pieces from obviously biased websites when you could go directly to the World Health Organization itself for ACCURATE unbiased information?

Uganda - HIV/AIDS
Often such web sites do not reveal the full story for such a victory over AIDS, as we see in Uganda. And that is because they are not as unbias as you claim. So it is often better to go to the horses mouth, then some Organization that is there to put their poltical spin on it. It is the church, and the Uganda government that is pushing Abstinence.

"Uganda is one of the countries that attach great importance on promoting abstinence among our youth, said Ahmed Ssenyomo, minister counselor at the Ugandan Embassy, in a speech to the African American Youth Conference on Abstinence.
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Old 08-15-2010, 09:08 AM
 
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You are so full of unadulterated crap, I hardly know where to start...It WAS NOT the scriptures that diminished AIDS infection in Uganda..( The battle has NOT ended) There is absolutely no mention of God or the scriptures in Uganda's education program for AIDS prevention.

The most important thing is that Uganda educated the people on AIDS, how it is contracted, and how to prevent becoming infected. In addition they dispelled the myths associated with aids...The most common one of these was that having sex with a virgin would cure a man of AIDS.

The ABC-method
After having been informed of how the disease is contracted and how it is not, the emphasis was shifted to ways of preventing the disease. The government initiated the ABC-method. This method has a unique approach, which has proved effective. In 1992 about 18% of the population was HIV-positive. In 2004 this percentage was estimated at 6,4%. Besides, at that time, all layers of the population knew about the disease.

It is president Museveni who introduced the ABC-method around 1997. He told the people that it is a duty to their home country to prevent contamination with the virus. This is why people have to abstain, from having sex until they are married and people have to (be faithful to their partners. However, should they 'commit the deed' or have more than one partner, they have to use (condoms. The message was spread loud and clear by means of radio programs and theatre groups. On large billboards various brands of condoms were advertised. Condoms are cheap and can be bought nearly everywhere.
The history of AIDS in Uganda
One of the billboards...
I'd rep you again if I could.

That myth you mentioned that having sex with a virgin would cure HIV apparently had men raping little girls and babies.

HIV is on the upswing again in Uganda since the US Christian Fundys have got involved in Uganda promoting ONLY "Abstinance only" and spreading misinformation about condom use.
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