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Old 08-13-2010, 12:58 PM
Status: "OU sucks!" (set 17 days ago)
 
Location: The Haunted Mansion
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Originally Posted by ChristyGrl View Post
How do Christians arrive at their truth that all other religions are nonsense and only theirs is the correct one???? What makes the bible more truthful, than the Book of Mormon, afterall...didn't Joseph Smith receive visions JUST LIKE PAUL DID??????? What make the bible more truthful than the Quran or any other holy book for that matter???????

The truth I've gained (which I by no means imposed on anyone else or declared was true for anyone else but myself) is by studying the ACTUAL PHYSICAL EVIDENCE available...by studying the orgins of religious beliefs, the orgins of the bible, ancient astrotheology, ancient archeology, ancient mythology, ancient comparative religions, etc. for many, many years.......not by shoving my nose in one man made book called the bible and declaring it to be the truth for all.

So...please tell me again...what was hypocritical about that???????
Because you do not know for sure if you're right. You can't this side of death. Why can't you admit that? You said earlier that no one knows.

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we have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE...exactly what it is...no matter how much one blusters otherwise
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:00 PM
 
Location: West Coast USA
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whatever
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Yes, I know, only non-Christians can possibly know the truth. Another hypocrite!
That is not what I said at all...I said that Christians CAN know the truth, but apparently they don't want to, and would rather rely on faith....

Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions....Frater Ravus

The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it......Terry Pratchett

"Faith" means not wanting to know what is true.....
Friedrich Nietzsche
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:10 PM
 
Location: West Coast USA
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That is not what I said at all...I said that Christians CAN know the truth, but apparently they don't want to, and would rather rely on faith....

Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions....Frater Ravus

The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it......Terry Pratchett

"Faith" means not wanting to know what is true.....
Friedrich Nietzsche
Perhaps this is true for some believers but not for all of us. Some of us depend upon asking the "hard questions" to come to complete truth. G-d has never been afraid of questions.
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:13 PM
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That is not what I said at all...I said that Christians CAN know the truth, but apparently they don't want to, and would rather rely on faith....

Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions....Frater Ravus

The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it......Terry Pratchett

"Faith" means not wanting to know what is true.....
Friedrich Nietzsche
Same thing. You're saying Christianity can't possibly be the truth, but what you believe can (and is). You believe the men you quoted speak truth. I believe Jesus speaks truth.

John 14
6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Christianity is not a religion. Religion is the invention of Satan. It is his ace-trump in his plan to prevent those who he may from ever being saved.
Christianity IS a religion whether you like it our not and YOU believe the religious doctrine of the Catholic church, namely the Nicene Creed. You might like to check it out.

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I'll discuss religion with you. Although the chances are you may become offended by the truth that you are currently a disiciple of Satan and heading for eternal torment in hell.
You really are a nasty piece of work aren't you?

Thanks for your post. It really wasn't appreciated. Do I now put this...
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:14 PM
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Perhaps this is true for some believers but not for all of us. Some of us depend upon asking the "hard questions" to come to complete truth. G-d has never been afraid of questions.
Good point.
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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I cant deny a god , but I can deny your christian god.

christians most definitely do not hold the truth.

I dont know who does and I dont claim to know who does , its absolutely absurd to believe that you have the truth.
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Pike Road, Alabama
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Because you do not know for sure if you're right. You can't this side of death. Why can't you admit that? You said earlier that no one knows.
I concur...NO ONE KNOWS what actually happens when we die.

What does that have to do with believing in the false bible god???
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:31 PM
 
Location: NY & Fl
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VelcroQueen
You appear to be one that doesn't settle for stock answers or explanations.
You also say God doesn't mind hard questions.
Do you really think whether or not you spell out god fully makes one whole hell of a lot of difference ?
I'm ask this in a respectful way, not a snide one.
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