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Old 08-13-2010, 10:06 AM
 
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Don't you ever wonder, even a little bit, why there is no written record of all the things Jesus did and the miracles that occured while he was alive by not even one of his followers or any other contemporary?
Why it was 40/50 years before these things were written....and even then, not by anyone that actually knew him.
It is not as if there is not volumnious writings about other things from...and before...that era.
Doesn't it bother you at all?
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:15 AM
 
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Not by anyone that actually knew him? What are the gospels, then?

The Straight Dope: Who wrote the Bible? (Part 4)
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:22 AM
 
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Don't you ever wonder, even a little bit, why there is no written record of all the things Jesus did and the miracles that occured while he was alive by not even one of his followers or any other contemporary?
Why it was 40/50 years before these things were written....and even then, not by anyone that actually knew him.
It is not as if there is not volumnious writings about other things from...and before...that era.
Doesn't it bother you at all?
Also, most of the early Christians were the down-and-out types, the fishermen are the first example, but slaves and other rejects of society. Most people were not literate at the time, even wealthy ones, and this group especially not. Plus, Christians weren't really well-known as a group outside a small area until Paul started zipping around the Mediterranean by boat.

Another possibility might be that the early Christians expected Jesus to return during their lifetimes. He was going to come back any day, and they were following the details of the great commission traveling by foot from village to village transmitting the gospel by word of mouth, so between lack of literacy and expectation of the imminent return of Christ, writing it all down probably wasn't a high priority.
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Not by anyone that actually knew him? What are the gospels, then?
They are hear-say account written by people who never knew any Jesus. Your own link even tells you that!!
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:23 AM
 
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Not by anyone that actually knew him? What are the gospels, then?

The Straight Dope: Who wrote the Bible? (Part 4)
Did you read your own link?
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:24 AM
 
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Also, most of the early Christians were the down-and-out types, the fishermen are the first example, but slaves and other rejects of society. Most people were not literate at the time, even wealthy ones, and this group especially not. Plus, Christians weren't really well-known as a group outside a small area until Paul started zipping around the Mediterranean by boat.

Another possibility might be that the early Christians expected Jesus to return during their lifetimes. He was going to come back any day, and they were following the details of the great commission traveling by foot from village to village transmitting the gospel by word of mouth, so between lack of literacy and expectation of the imminent return of Christ, writing it all down probably wasn't a high priority.
I understand why there may not be many.....but none???
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:28 AM
 
Location: PA
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Don't you ever wonder, even a little bit, why there is no written record of all the things Jesus did and the miracles that occured while he was alive by not even one of his followers or any other contemporary?
Why it was 40/50 years before these things were written....and even then, not by anyone that actually knew him.
It is not as if there is not volumnious writings about other things from...and before...that era.
Doesn't it bother you at all?
Contemporaries of Jesus Christ are irrelevant.

The gospels were written after the disciples knew their lives were ending. Up until that time they were preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ to the world daily. Most people write the memoirs at the end of their lives. The same was for the apostles! They wrote them down for the future generations who could not hear them preach directly.
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:29 AM
 
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Also, most of the early Christians were the down-and-out types, the fishermen are the first example, but slaves and other rejects of society. Most people were not literate at the time, even wealthy ones, and this group especially not. Plus, Christians weren't really well-known as a group outside a small area until Paul started zipping around the Mediterranean by boat.

Another possibility might be that the early Christians expected Jesus to return during their lifetimes. He was going to come back any day, and they were following the details of the great commission traveling by foot from village to village transmitting the gospel by word of mouth, so between lack of literacy and expectation of the imminent return of Christ, writing it all down probably wasn't a high priority.
right on
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:30 AM
 
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Also, most of the early Christians were the down-and-out types, the fishermen are the first example, but slaves and other rejects of society. Most people were not literate at the time, even wealthy ones, and this group especially not. Plus, Christians weren't really well-known as a group outside a small area until Paul started zipping around the Mediterranean by boat.

Another possibility might be that the early Christians expected Jesus to return during their lifetimes. He was going to come back any day, and they were following the details of the great commission traveling by foot from village to village transmitting the gospel by word of mouth, so between lack of literacy and expectation of the imminent return of Christ, writing it all down probably wasn't a high priority.
Humbug! Do you really think that if this Jesus had really existed and done everything attributed to him in the Bible, there wouldn't have been a historian or two to record it? Someone wandering around walking on water, raising the dead, performing miracles the like of which had never been seen before or since....and nobody noticed. You surely jest?
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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Don't you ever wonder, even a little bit, why there is no written record of all the things Jesus did and the miracles that occured while he was alive by not even one of his followers or any other contemporary?
Why it was 40/50 years before these things were written....and even then, not by anyone that actually knew him.
It is not as if there is not volumnious writings about other things from...and before...that era.
Doesn't it bother you at all?
I've often asked this question of many Christians and you just get the same old TIRED story...they thought the world was ending so they didn't write anything down...blah, blah, blah...

The FACTS are: There is absolutely NO CONTEMPORARY HISTORICAL EVIDENCE (This means evidence written by historians who were alive at the same time Jesus walked the dirt of this earth) for all the wonderworkings of Jesus. Considering it SPECIFICALLY states in scripture that THE MULTITUDES FLOCKED TO HIM....you would think at least ONE historian would have written about him...for if they were alive at the same time as this Jesus...surely they heard of him and all his wonderworkings...surely they heard of all the multitudes flocking to him...surely they heard of his execution and resurrection....surely they heard something about him...but alas...NOT ONE WORD.
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