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Old 02-08-2012, 03:48 PM
 
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If a Christian thinks that mandating prayer in schools will fix the problems our society has, they have already missed the point of being one.
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:56 PM
 
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Effects of removing religion from public schools

Students cannot be bullied by teachers that take roll call on Monday's of who went to church and who did not go to church on Sunday. Teachers cannot create a hostile environment in the class room toward those that don't attend church, and be the 'ring leader' of the entire class to bully the atheist in the class.

Welcome to my 7th grade homeroom class before the supreme court banned prayer in schools. Of course my mother, a very well spoken and out spoken woman, intervened before the SCOUS did, and this teacher no longer held her Monday morning bully sessions.
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:04 PM
 
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Before 1960 The Lord was complaining that there was no love in the world and people just did not get it , as the world wars from the past century were proof of the lack of love in the world , and as far as the church was concerned it was alot weaker before 1960 then it is today ...... As today Son of God Lord Jesus has a church and He has a people far more in number than the children of God before 1960 .... Before there was a popular Christianity which was weak and powerless , were today there is a stronger Church with Believers walking in the power of the Lord and This Church is growing but is a lot more persecuted today as the popular church is almost gone ..... See Before 1960 ..stores would close on Sunday , Most Churches had No locks on their doors and people had a respect for the church and the God that They did not even know .... So the church did change , but it still need to pray for their enemies so the world would be a better place , as the Lord God holds the key to the abyss were demonic activities web a flow and grow and be abased as sin comes and grows and demons come out of the pit and some are forced to return , which influence the seasons of Heaven ....
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:18 PM
 
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Evolution is the most dangerous Religion on the planet. It's indoctrinating the most vulnerable in public schools planting the seed for Hatred, Murder, Racism, Genocide, providing the grounds for the social change desired toward the Aryan Transhuman race - exactly what Hitler was trying to accomplish.

So Religion is very much in Public Schools - pseudoscietific science fiction theology called Evolution.
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Evolution is the most dangerous Religion on the planet. It's indoctrinating the most vulnerable in public schools planting the seed for Hatred, Murder, Racism, Genocide, providing the grounds for the social change desired toward the Aryan Transhuman race - exactly what Hitler was trying to accomplish.

So Religion is very much in Public Schools - pseudoscietific science fiction theology called Evolution.
That is just a pile of steaming cow pies...Evolution is not a religion, or any other "thing".... It is the unstoppable process of nature's efforts to adapt species to their environment...Every species on earth is evolving continually....

Hitler's atrocities were the culmination in his sick mind of thousands of years of hatred of the Jewish people by Christians like Martin Luther.
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:22 PM
 
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It's indoctrinating the most vulnerable in public schools planting the seed for Hatred, Murder, Racism, Genocide...

No, no, we've already established that you can't teach the Bible as the inerrant word of God in public schools.

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Old 02-08-2012, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Asheville, Nc
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No, no, we've already established that you can't teach the Bible as the inerrant word of God in public schools.

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Even as a Pagan I wouldn't want ANY religion taught in school. Our country is already behind the rest of the world when it comes to edcuation.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:31 PM
 
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While I agree that that Jewish God and the Christian God are different, that's a matter of opnion on your part.
I didn't say they were different. The Christian G-d is the pre-existing Jewish G-d.


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Even Satan is different in the bible.
Satan as the devil is a Christian concept.

According to theflipflop in http://www.city-data.com/forum/relig...l#post22769972

Lucifer does not exist in Judaism - that's a Chrstian invention. I understand Chrstians believe Satan is an opposing force to G-d - a "wayward angle" so to speak. That has no foundation in the Jewish bible. The satan is merely another one of Hashem's many angels, doing His bidding. It's blasphemeous to the Jew to think there's any force in the universe that has the ability to thwart Hashem's will (like the Chrstian satan does). The satan (we call him HaSatan) is simply one of G-d's angels, who G-d sends around the earth to accomplish very specific "missions" for G-d.


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There is no proof that the God of the OT is the God in the Pledge Of Allegence.
What other G-d could it be referring to other than the G-d in the Bible, or, if you prefer, the Jewish Bible.

The OT is a Christian invention that is a mistranslation of the Jewish Bible to which a man made New Testament is appended, in an attempt to assert supersessionism.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Asheville, Nc
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I didn't say they were different. The Christian G-d is the pre-existing Jewish G-d.




Satan as the devil is a Christian concept.

According to theflipflop in http://www.city-data.com/forum/relig...l#post22769972

Lucifer does not exist in Judaism - that's a Chrstian invention. I understand Chrstians believe Satan is an opposing force to G-d - a "wayward angle" so to speak. That has no foundation in the Jewish bible. The satan is merely another one of Hashem's many angels, doing His bidding. It's blasphemeous to the Jew to think there's any force in the universe that has the ability to thwart Hashem's will (like the Chrstian satan does). The satan (we call him HaSatan) is simply one of G-d's angels, who G-d sends around the earth to accomplish very specific "missions" for G-d.




What other G-d could it be referring to other than the G-d in the Bible, or, if you prefer, the Jewish Bible.

The OT is a Christian invention that is a mistranslation of the Jewish Bible to which a man made New Testament is appended, in an attempt to assert supersessionism.

Satan does exist in the OT the biggest difference in the OT and the NT is that Satan is Gods whipping boy. The NT he is let loose to do as he pleases. even God isn't the same person in the OT has he is in the NT.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:53 PM
 
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Satan does exist in the OT the biggest difference in the OT and the NT is that Satan is Gods whipping boy. The NT he is let loose to do as he pleases. even God isn't the same person in the OT has he is in the NT.
The OT as a mistranslation of the Bible is a Christian invention and has nothing to do with the Torah that G-d gave at Sinai.

The man-manufactured NT has no connection to the Biblical G-d.
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