Strange. Does God wants us to rebel and sin? (hell, bible, worship)
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God wants everyone to rebel against Obama, liberals, muslims, intellectuals, gays, atheists, peace activists, environmentalists, and anyone who may hinder capitalism.
God wants everyone to rebel against Obama, liberals, muslims, intellectuals, gays, atheists, peace activists, environmentalists, and anyone who may hinder capitalism.
Deut 21
18If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
19Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
20And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
21And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Ya. love of family.
I can do this all day.
Start thinking.
If God is to be our example of how to love our children then His example of love for His children is shown quite well in Noah's day when He drowned all of His children including real children and babies.
A God who can cure just as easily as kill, and chooses to kill, is a God without morals or sense or love.
Regards
DL
I can only assume that you don't think our sins are our responsibility. They are. We know right from wrong unless we have a mental disability in which case, God does not hold against us. The son in that situation was clearly of age to drink which tells me that he was as a man. Apparently the parents tried everything with him with no success.
In Noah's day, Noah was a preacher. God did not kill all those people for no reason. They had been warned but would not listen. The Bible says their thoughts were only bad all of the time. That was a very bad society. I can't even imagine how Noah and his family remained faithful. There's many bad people among us today but according to the Bible on the humans before the flood, it's certainly not that bad. At least I don't think it is but then I can't read others thoughts either.
I can only assume that you don't think our sins are our responsibility. They are. We know right from wrong unless we have a mental disability in which case, God does not hold against us. The son in that situation was clearly of age to drink which tells me that he was as a man. Apparently the parents tried everything with him with no success.
In Noah's day, Noah was a preacher. God did not kill all those people for no reason. They had been warned but would not listen. The Bible says their thoughts were only bad all of the time. That was a very bad society. I can't even imagine how Noah and his family remained faithful. There's many bad people among us today but according to the Bible on the humans before the flood, it's certainly not that bad. At least I don't think it is but then I can't read others thoughts either.
So by your logic we should stone all drunks to death.
Nice morals.
As to God's warning before His use of genocide, just how did He warn the children and babies?
My point stands un-refuted by you.
Any God that can cure just as easily as kill and chooses to kill, has not moral sense and is a genocidal maniac.
I am not surprised that you did not try to refute that statement. It is irrefutable.
"I can only assume that you don't think our sins are our responsibility. They are."
You are absolutely right so step up and take responsibility for them instead of trying to lay them on a scapegoat Jesus that has to die for you and your ilk because you will not step up to do your duty and carry your own cross.
God is just. He doesn't do injustice things. Because you see them as unjust certainly doesn't make it so. In those times, it was before Jesus died for our salvation. We are no longer under all the laws of that time.
You should be greatful but it appears you're not. You want to judge our creator.
"I can only assume that you don't think our sins are our responsibility. They are."
You are absolutely right so step up and take responsibility for them instead of trying to lay them on a scapegoat Jesus that has to die for you and your ilk because you will not step up to do your duty and carry your own cross.
Regards
DL
Without him we have no hope but we still have to prove ourselves acceptable to God. I don't believe in riding on Jesus' to salvation. That's the ones that claim all you have to do is have him in your heart or claim we just have to believe in him. I believe we should follow his footsteps closely and I believe it is his Father, our God, that we should serve.
God is just. He doesn't do injustice things. Because you see them as unjust certainly doesn't make it so. In those times, it was before Jesus died for our salvation. We are no longer under all the laws of that time.
You should be greatful but it appears you're not. You want to judge our creator.
And you are willing to give a pass to a genocidal maniac who murders children and babies. That is immoral.
Shame on you.
Is your real last name Hitler?
Without him we have no hope but we still have to prove ourselves acceptable to God. I don't believe in riding on Jesus' to salvation. That's the ones that claim all you have to do is have him in your heart or claim we just have to believe in him. I believe we should follow his footsteps closely and I believe it is his Father, our God, that we should serve.
All you have to do is believe in a God who hides from man and the others that want or need some kind of proof or evidence get to go to torture forever because they would not believe in some invisible entity.
Ya that is really good justice from you imaginary Pooka.
All you have to do is like genocidal maniacs and if you don't as any sane person would not then you burn forever.
Keep your head right up your God ass for all I care if that is the best you can do. I am not that immoral.
whats the point in all this bickering,you dont beleive in God she does blah blah,just get on with life,if their is a God then im sure everything will work out in the end for every living being anf if their isnt then life will be just voidness after death,and we wont know any different,so why waist so much time,discussing these topics if it dosent mean anything to ya!!!,
ok we can all point out the faults of the bible doctrine and many religious concepts but isnt it just a waiste of time goin over the same crap over and over again!!!
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