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I just wonder how many of these things are really prehistoric or if these are new creatures, and they are just calling them prehsitoric when they shouldn't be called that at all?
New? You mean evolved into it suddenly or poof there it is?
If only he could catch one or had shot the two down, but probably would have gotten in trouble for that.
I know. No one can really prove it until readers actually saw the creatures themselves.
Sorry, I can't buy this guy's account. Pteranodons were one of the largest of the Pterosaurs with a wingspan of up to 30 feet. That's pretty dang big. I mean, really, no one else saw them? Two of them flying together? In Cuba? Nobody on boats or ships, no Cubans, no other Marines? I mean, how could they be missed? Cuban may be "a land of mystery" but it isn't really all that big and certainly not big enough to hide Pteranodons that fly in groups. Someone would have seen them, reported them to authorities or a University. This guy was mistaken in what he saw or is telling a tall tale.
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Originally Posted by Enow
Even the American Indians of Pennsylvania gave the description of the "Thunderbird" to be that description of a Pteranodon, but that hardly gives pause to anyone in the science or history field.
Gotta call you on the Thunderbird statement. I am an Indian - enrolled Comanche. The thunderbird is a mythological creature used to explain thunder and lightning and whose description can IN NO WAY be confused with a Pterosaur. It is described among all the nations who had it in their mythology as being a feathered bird....most definitely not reptilian. It is more akin to the mythological Roc.
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So what is this, a lame attempt to discredit science and a blatant play to legitimize creationism and young earthers?
I do not consider evolution as science so anything evolutionary is what I am seeking to discredit in science so that science can go back to being impartial in proving and disproving hypothesis.
When the Monkey Scopes' Trail disproved the evolution theory, science still granted liberty for the evolution theory to be pursued.
I know that the Hollywood version of that event has it where evolution won the trial, but transcripts proves it did not.
Point is, there is no academic freedom in the pursuit of science when there are repercussions for anyone pursuing the theory of Grand Design.
So for all the hype of creationism being nonsense, why the threats if it can be so easily disproven which is the job of a scientist?
Sorry, I can't buy this guy's account. Pteranodons were one of the largest of the Pterosaurs with a wingspan of up to 30 feet. That's pretty dang big. I mean, really, no one else saw them? Two of them flying together? In Cuba? Nobody on boats or ships, no Cubans, no other Marines? I mean, how could they be missed? Cuban may be "a land of mystery" but it isn't really all that big and certainly not big enough to hide Pteranodons that fly in groups. Someone would have seen them, reported them to authorities or a University. This guy was mistaken in what he saw or is telling a tall tale.
I can accept your deductive reasoning on the matter but do consider that cranes and herons are probably a regular there so when people get used to seeing them, there is a chance that they stop looking right at them or at a glance, think they are a crane or a heron without noticing the difference regarding the back of the head of the creatures.
Herons are a regular here as well in where I live. The blue heron is the more definitive bird in question as one witness account from Greenville thought he had seen a Pteranodon or one like it, but him seeing the huge bird from a distance and flying in the sky with its "huge wing span", I apt to believe he saw the blue heron instead.
I would have said the same about this witness account except he described the head which defers greatly from the cranes or herons.
But hey. That is okay if you are not buying it. I did not really expect you or anyone to buy that account, but I had hoped it would give pause about what the media has been presenting to us in the realm of science as per the evolution theory.
I do not consider evolution as science so anything evolutionary is what I am seeking to discredit in science so that science can go back to being impartial in proving and disproving hypothesis.
When the Monkey Scopes' Trail disproved the evolution theory, science still granted liberty for the evolution theory to be pursued.
I know that the Hollywood version of that event has it where evolution won the trial, but transcripts proves it did not.
Point is, there is no academic freedom in the pursuit of science when there are repercussions for anyone pursuing the theory of Grand Design.
So for all the hype of creationism being nonsense, why the threats if it can be so easily disproven which is the job of a scientist?
Oh MAN!!!!!!! In no way did the Scopes trial disprove evolution!!!!!!!hahahahahahaa all it proved was at the time, there were alot of ignorant religious people out there. 1925, gee I think we have expanded beyond that!!
Gotta call you on the Thunderbird statement. I am an Indian - enrolled Comanche. The thunderbird is a mythological creature whose description can IN NO WAY be confused with a Pterosaur. It is described among all the nations who had it in their mythology as being a feathered bird....most definitely not reptilian. It is more akin to the mythological Roc.
I stand corrected due to poor recollectiion:
It was pterodactyls that I had seen the comparison to, but yes, you are essentially correct that most of the thunderbirds legends has them with black feathers.
• Pterodactyls – Although eye witness descriptions of the Thunderbird look nothing like the presumed extinct Pterodactyls some researches still believe they are the cause for these reports.
Apparantly, I had come across those research that painted the thunderbird as such.
Seeing the buzzards making a comeback in the valley where I live, I have to wonder if the thunderbird was primarily based on those creatures.
Oh MAN!!!!!!! In no way did the Scopes trial disprove evolution!!!!!!!hahahahahahaa all it proved was at the time, there were alot of ignorant religious people out there. 1925, gee I think we have expanded beyond that!!
Now see? Your mind is made up. It is closed to any impartial looking at the evidence. You are ignoring history's account on purpose by discreditting the people at the trial.
You have made your choice.
My point of reference was to show the lack of academic freedom in science today.
Now see? Your mind is made up. It is closed to any impartial looking at the evidence. You are ignoring history's account on purpose by discreditting the people at the trial.
You have made your choice.
My point of reference was to show the lack of academic freedom in science today.
Ignoring? you looked through your biased eyes.
See the ones that arrested him, the state was the closed minded impartial ones that ignored the evidence. They didn't want that getting out into the world, people might start to question and rightfully so.
Academic freedom in science? creationism is in no way science, just fairy tale.
New? You mean evolved into it suddenly or poof there it is?
With all the evolutionist seeing scientists out there, I'm just surprised that nobody has announced a new species has emerged yet.
And yes, I am familiar with the breeding and the like, but I am talking about what evolutionary nature would claim to have produced: not the new species of a rose which is still a rose....or the crossing of a lion and a tiger to make a liger both make and female: which needs to be pointed out that neither can reproduce in spite of the planned mixed breeding.
I just wonder how many of these labled "living prehistoric creatures" actually have fossil records to say that they were prehistoric?
Academic freedom in science? creationism is in no way science, just fairy tale.
But that is up to science to prove or to disprove that.
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