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Is it a common christian belief that the works of Ghandi weren't 'good' because they weren't done with christ? That generous well intentioned works mean nothing because the doer didn't happen to be christian?
I'm sorry, but I find that arrogant coming from a preacher who's life works will probably never equal what Ghandi and other non-christians have accomplished for the world, but I held my tongue then for the sake of the friend who'd brought me to hear the sermon.
But, I just have to know. Surely, you don't think like him?
Is it a common christian belief that the works of Ghandi weren't 'good' because they weren't done with christ? That generous well intentioned works mean nothing because the doer didn't happen to be christian?
I'm sorry, but I find that arrogant coming from a preacher who's life works will probably never equal what Ghandi and other non-christians have accomplished for the world, but I held my tongue then for the sake of the friend who'd brought me to hear the sermon.
But, I just have to know. Surely, you don't think like him?
I think the common perception is that Ghandi was "good", but that our works with out faith in Christ mean very little. So basically, Ghandi was miguided, and oh how sad that all that goodness amounted to nothing, as far as eternity goes.
I think God sees someone's heart. How many Christians have done half as much for their fellow man as Ghandi? I'm a Christian, and I definately don't agree with your friend.
It's more like this: anything "good" or "bad" that we do has no affect on our entrance into heaven. In other words, we cannot work our way in. Nor could we ever do anything so bad that we could not be forgiven. The only way in is through Christ. Accepting His sacrifice on the cross, saving us from the consequences of our sin, and bringing us into heaven eternally.
When people do "good" that is good, but it will not save them from their sins.
It's more like this: anything "good" or "bad" that we do has no affect on our entrance into heaven. In other words, we cannot work our way in. Nor could we ever do anything so bad that we could not be forgiven. The only way in is through Christ. Accepting His sacrifice on the cross, saving us from the consequences of our sin, and bringing us into heaven eternally.
When people do "good" that is good, but it will not save them from their sins.
If you have accepted Christ and do good, because you want to go to heaven, then, my friend, I am worried about you...IMO, you WILL do good, because when you accepted Christ, you became a new person Lets hope that since we are a good person that we will draw others to us, and eventually to Christ, and be not thinking that the good stuff we did today and what we can think to do tomorrow is another step to heaven
Is it a common christian belief that the works of Ghandi weren't 'good' because they weren't done with christ? That generous well intentioned works mean nothing because the doer didn't happen to be christian?
I'm sorry, but I find that arrogant coming from a preacher who's life works will probably never equal what Ghandi and other non-christians have accomplished for the world, but I held my tongue then for the sake of the friend who'd brought me to hear the sermon.
But, I just have to know. Surely, you don't think like him?
What does the Bible say about our own righteousness or goodness as human beings:
Isaiah 64:6
But we are all like an unclean thing, And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags; We all fade as a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, Have taken us away
The OP asked if the works of Ghandi weren't 'good' because they weren't done with christ? That generous well intentioned works mean nothing because the doer didn't happen to be christian? What do you think specifically regarding this question?
I know the church I was raised in, Seventh day Adventists didn't think anything of Ghandi, in fact anybody that wasn't an Adventist wouldn't have gotten any notice. I remember when I was young and learned about Ghandi, I started asking about him and was hushed up.
They tend to pull away from outsiders and congregate together. We were not encourage to work, live or befriend people who were not believers and downright told it was not acceptable to marry outside the faith.
I believe this is how the church brainwashed people, they attempted to control all the input a person got.
Ghandi, raised a Hindu (although many tryed to convert him), to me was a holy man in one of his last lifetimes, and will soon attain Nirvana with the other holy people who have unrelentively sought the truth. Dogma is often a barrier to what actually is true.
Just my two cents...
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Lets hope that since we are a good person that we will draw others to us, and eventually to Christ, and be not thinking that the good stuff we did today and what we can think to do tomorrow is another step to heaven
