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Why yes as a matter of fact they have. They live basicly on the road going from state to state, town to town feeding the homeless out of the back of a camper that belongs to the ministry they serve. They have also helped many people who have been addicted to drugs get their lives back and many of them are very successful and have families of their own now.
As I said, they live on the road and so they dont have a tv or a radio. They have only the bare essentials which are a truck and a pull-behind camper in which they keep ALL of their belongings. Their are many churches along the way that help support them and all the good they do for others. They have dedicated their entire lives to doing what they do
Didnt think so.
[/QUOTE] imme a chance dude...I'm holiday at the moment and didn't have access to a computer until this morning.
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That being said it seems you are confusing these things for somthing that a Christian MUST do. Nowhere is it said in the Bible that you must sell your belongings and give the money to the poor to be a Christian.
Ididn't say you had to do it only if you want to be perfect. I assumed you did want to be perfect.
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I recall Jesus telling a man that wanted to join him and his desiples that he must sell everything, but that was only to JOIN HIM.
By loonies, as in the OP, I meant the loonies that pry into private lives, demand legislation according to their likes and dislikes, those who become very angry and hostile to other opinions and lifestyles, the stone throwers, the finger pointers, and those who bless themselves for their righteousness.
What I wonder is why does America have such large numbers of them.
I wasnt directing that post to you but yes I see what you mean. The fact is, there are going to be "loonies" in any group wether it be Christian, Atheist, Islam, whatever. These people are usually just trying to draw attention to themselves and get publicity
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imme a chance dude...I'm holiday at the moment and didn't have access to a computer until this morning.
Ididn't say you had to do it only if you want to be perfect. I assumed you did want to be perfect.
So it only applies to someone else huh?
Who would want to be perfect? That is impossible. What do you mean "it" only applies to somone else. There is no "it" because there is no rule that you must do these things in order to be Christian Did I not explain it clear enough for you the first time? Jesus said this to the man to test if he was sincere about wanting to follow him and be like his desciples were. Obviously, the man cared more about his material possesions than he did about wanting to join Jesus ministry
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Christians reside and worship in many nations. But what other nation can boast of such a great number of fundies as America?
America has the mega-churches, a powerful christian media,
more evangelists than all nations put together, more people that reject science to favor creationism, more religious people in positions of authority (politics), more religious people with weapons that ocassionally use them to eliminate others, etc.
What in American society cultivates the vast numbers of christian weirdos? Is it the education system? Traditions? Parents? Peer Pressure?
First...about a third of them are faking it because they know an atheist is automatically at a disadvantage in this country. If you don't believe that look at some of the things going on Sunday mornings and weigh that against the numbers of cars in the parking lots of churches.
There's golf, picnics, lawn mowing, fishing, sleeping in, etc. I'm in the bible belt and on any given Sunday about 80% of my neighborhood is at home...not in church. Maybe they just go once a month so they can drop off their money.
Now...besides that the number of declared Christians or indeed religious people has begun to diminish and it's gathering steam because of the Internet.
When I was in elementary school in the early 1940's the teachers taught the bible every day beginning with all of us saying the lord's prayer in unison and memorizing bible verses in order to recite them back to the class.
In one of Thomas Jefferson's letters to John Adams a statement declares that there will come a day when the miracles in the new testament will no longer be relevant to our society. That will still come to pass though it's been slowed by religious zealots poking their noses into our government.
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That remains to be seen. We haven't yet seen what is going to happen in Egypt, and Libya appears to be a checkmate. It's not going well in Syria.
All I said was something about the "Fundamentalism" in the middle east. Realize that fundamentalists are rather more orthodox moslems like Hezbollah and the the rule of Iran. It is the focused upon simple life, and it is perhaps more afraid of the war if it is not part of the political troubles the right government issues have brought up. Of late they are narrow minded, and could be factors in the justified economic changes of the country. Nevertheless, their time is spent on ignoring the law, using the authorities for medical and social protection issues, and they have an unjustified population growth amongst their ranks. They faithfully stick to their roots and do not justify changes of anything democratically principled beyond knowing the military is near.
Libya and Egypt are revolts usually by the affluent and middle class frustrated by the inability to progress in their scientifically presented enterprises. They are instead the well employed and ambitious.
Rather like the majority of Christians in the world then.
Finally somthing we can agree on. Yes, most who "claim" to be Christian arnt really Christian at all, a point I TRIED to show you and flyero with my previous posts.
Finally somthing we can agree on. Yes, most who "claim" to be Christian arnt really Christian at all, a point I TRIED to show you and flyero with my previous posts.
The problem with this argument (and the reason it's a fallacy) is because every Christian says that every other Christian who disagrees with them, is not a "true Christian". Christianity is the most divided, disagreeable religion in human history. They all think they're right with God, and everyone else isn't. And there is absolutely no way to know who is and who isn't.
The problem with this argument (and the reason it's a fallacy) is because every Christian says that every other Christian who disagrees with them, is not a "true Christian". Christianity is the most divided, disagreeable religion in human history. They all think they're right with God, and everyone else isn't. And there is absolutely no way to know who is and who isn't.
Im not talking about people who belong to diffrent denominations, Im talking about the people who claim to be Christians but yet, Christianity and its teachings play NO active role in their lives what soever
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