11:11 (translation, prophet, worship, quotes)

[light1111]

I am confused by how often one can bring up a topic, only to have someone mention that it's possible that the devil is what led you to wonder about it. I don't begin to understand this ideology. This has been happening to me in many discussions lately, whether the topic is Reiki, curiosity about the meaning of particular Biblical verses, faith vs. doubt, politics, etc.

To me, if one does believe that they under threat of attack by dark entities (and I tend to agree with the Reverend on the inherent nature of such entities), one need only to ask himself the following: Does this appear to lead people into the light? Or into deeper confusion? If the end result of something is to increase a person's sense of peace, I don't see how it could result from something dark.

Reiki is an example of this. For anyone who's had a Reiki session, you may be able to relate. Physical, mental, emotional and spiritual difficulties can be overcome by this form of energy healing. Though many speak up and say its origins are in the devil. I never supposed the devil was interested in helping people to heal. To me, that's the exclusive right of the light--of God's hand in things.

Again, for anyone seeing 11:11, it's up to you to decide if you'd like to dismiss it as coincidence, or not, but jumping to a place where it must be inherently evil seems strange to me.

[virgode]

Its pretty much what you can expect on this forum. I'm not Catholic, but I have a strong interest in Our Lady of Guadelupe, I can't say what it is that draws me to her, but on December 12th 2009, I posted a related video. You would have thought I posted devil worship, this was from Christians, and reported a couple of the comments.

[1whirlwind]

Originally Posted by Reverend1111

Apparently, you are misreading my post. I don't believe the bible is the word of God. I believe the word of God is LOVE. Any being who does not teach Love, is not of God. I also do not believe in satan because he no longer exists. What you are not getting is that the rebellion is over. Done. We are in the Correcting Time. That means angels and other Celestials are leading the world into Light, not darkness. We've already been there. The only demons that exist are those that exist in our own souls. Beings of light will never tell you one thing then tell you something of complete opposite. Demons would also never tell you about Love because they do not have the love of God in their souls. So, you can interpret the bible any way you want. I don't read it nor do I believe it's all true. What I do believe to be true is that God is Love and so are we. We are to love God and each other and to become perfect as God is perfect. No dark soul would ever tell you that.

If you understand the commandments that Jesus gave then you will know that I would never harm my own soul for the sake of another. I would never harm my own soul just becaue someone tells me something and I"m too lazy to find out if it's true. I did the reasearch and I have also prayed for understanding. I got it. What those angels tell us is true because it is Love and they would have us love each other. That is all that matters.

Go back to your good book and seek to find the love it might be able to give you. IF you find that a book cannot love you, remember that you have angels that will.

It is the Words contained in "the good book" that speak of His love and teach us.....

Colossians 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Revelation 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Revelation 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

I didn't "misread" your post. I understand clearly what you are saying. I pray others will too.

[1whirlwind]

Originally Posted by light1111

I am confused by how often one can bring up a topic, only to have someone mention that it's possible that the devil is what led you to wonder about it. I don't begin to understand this ideology. This has been happening to me in many discussions lately, whether the topic is Reiki, curiosity about the meaning of particular Biblical verses, faith vs. doubt, politics, etc.

To me, if one does believe that they under threat of attack by dark entities (and I tend to agree with the Reverend on the inherent nature of such entities), one need only to ask himself the following: Does this appear to lead people into the light? Or into deeper confusion? If the end result of something is to increase a person's sense of peace, I don't see how it could result from something dark.

Reiki is an example of this. For anyone who's had a Reiki session, you may be able to relate. Physical, mental, emotional and spiritual difficulties can be overcome by this form of energy healing. Though many speak up and say its origins are in the devil. I never supposed the devil was interested in helping people to heal. To me, that's the exclusive right of the light--of God's hand in things.

Again, for anyone seeing 11:11, it's up to you to decide if you'd like to dismiss it as coincidence, or not, but jumping to a place where it must be inherently evil seems strange to me.

It isn't evil...it is a sign from our Father.


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[Reverend1111]

Originally Posted by light1111

I am confused by how often one can bring up a topic, only to have someone mention that it's possible that the devil is what led you to wonder about it. I don't begin to understand this ideology. This has been happening to me in many discussions lately, whether the topic is Reiki, curiosity about the meaning of particular Biblical verses, faith vs. doubt, politics, etc.

To me, if one does believe that they under threat of attack by dark entities (and I tend to agree with the Reverend on the inherent nature of such entities), one need only to ask himself the following: Does this appear to lead people into the light? Or into deeper confusion? If the end result of something is to increase a person's sense of peace, I don't see how it could result from something dark.

Reiki is an example of this. For anyone who's had a Reiki session, you may be able to relate. Physical, mental, emotional and spiritual difficulties can be overcome by this form of energy healing. Though many speak up and say its origins are in the devil. I never supposed the devil was interested in helping people to heal. To me, that's the exclusive right of the light--of God's hand in things.

Again, for anyone seeing 11:11, it's up to you to decide if you'd like to dismiss it as coincidence, or not, but jumping to a place where it must be inherently evil seems strange to me.

Well, you know the old saying, if it's not in the bible, it's not true. So, they have to blame something for the things not contained in the "good book".

Yet Jesus healed and did things that He even said we could do. Go figure.

I like Reiki. I always feel so energized when I'm done.

[Mt-7]

I think that in this matter we must pray for the ability to know what is from the heavenly father. No need for anyone to take it any other way than that.
I appreciate all view points.

[1whirlwind]

Originally Posted by Reverend1111

Well, you know the old saying, if it's not in the bible, it's not true. So, they have to blame something for the things not contained in the "good book".

Yet Jesus healed and did things that He even said we could do. Go figure.

I like Reiki. I always feel so energized when I'm done.

Yes, Jesus did heal and yes, Jesus did say that we too could heal. How do we know. Because it is written. How do we find the power to do this...it too is written. Go figure.


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[Reverend1111]

Originally Posted by 1whirlwind

It is the Words contained in "the good book" that speak of His love and teach us.....

Colossians 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Revelation 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Revelation 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

I didn't "misread" your post. I understand clearly what you are saying. I pray others will too.

So what your saying is that if another source says the same thing that the bible says regarding Love, it's not true yet the bible is true for saying the same thing an angels says. And I don't worship angels or other beings who communicate with us. I worship God So I don't know where you got that I did to reiterate bible passages. They are onyl here to help and teach us a better way and to hone what we already know. THey are doing no harm to us because Love does not harm.

You do reallize the bible was written by human beings who err. When the world began and life was put on it, that life, human beings, communicated on a daily basis with God and other spirit beings. It was when man became fearful that it was "evil" to talk with the spirit world. However, it will be normal again. Maybe not in our lifetime, but it will be normal because that is how God intended it to be. We are spirit first before material beings.

Thanks for the prayers of Love and I'll pray that you come to an understanding that each of us has a journey and it's our own.

[1whirlwind]

Originally Posted by Mt-7

I think that in this matter we must pray for the ability to know what is from the heavenly father. No need for anyone to take it any other way than that.
I appreciate all view points.

Yes, pray to Him only. He answers you in His Word.

Remember...He is a jealous God. And...it is He that saves us...not angels.


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[Reverend1111]

Originally Posted by 1whirlwind

Yes, Jesus did heal and yes, Jesus did say that we too could heal. How do we know. Because it is written. How do we find the power to do this...it too is written. Go figure.


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And that power is LOVE. We all have it but it must be honed and sharpened. That is the works that we must do to perfect our being. Love one another.