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07-26-2007, 03:46 PM
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Location: South Seattle Suburbs
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Originally Posted by Fleet
So I suggest that you stop the lecture and stop insisting that God does not exist, because you are in the minority on that subject.
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Just because a majority of people believe in something, that doesn't make it true. 
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07-26-2007, 03:50 PM
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Location: South Seattle Suburbs
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A very interesting story.
But you are wasting your time quoting Bible passages to the non-believers here. They won't believe anything you say or any of your experiences. Which I find quite sad.
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That's kind of condescending, isn't it?
I'd wager that most of the people you encounter who aren't religious were raised in some sort of religion. Meaning that they know the Bible stories very well, and for whatever reason chose to reject them. It's not as if they don't know how the stories go.
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07-26-2007, 04:27 PM
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Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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Unfortunately, they go to hell.  Fortunately, however...
Top 21 Good Things About Hell
21. None of that annoying check-in procedure like with St. Peter.
20. Due to recent health code changes, vats of boiling brimstone now use low-fat canola oil.
19. Your "Do you smell something burning?" slays 'em, year after year.
18. Plenty of legal help available for filing "wrongful death" lawsuit.
17. Newly passed law: Three strikes and you're back in LA.
16. Satan's confused attempts to torture masochists can be highly entertaining.
15. No need to pack the parka over Bob Dole's election chances.
14. Well, sure, it's hot, but it's a *dry* heat.
13. Free prostate checks and PAP smears administered daily!
12. The surprisingly entertaining "Hitler and Kathie Lee Show."
11. Every Thursday is Karaoke Night, hosted by Dean Martin and Sammy Davis, Jr.
10. Prizes awarded for best crank phone calls to God.
9. Everywhere you look, there's a smoking section!
8. Big step up from Bakersfield.
7. Your little "blue flame" trick now produces spectacular results.
6. Free Microsoft software for everyone (as per agreement made back in early 80's).
5. Now that you've followed her advice, you just might get that date with Cindy Crawford.
4. 52 smmmmmokin' channels of Jim Carrey!
3. Saturday night WWF tag-team bout between Genghis Khan, Vlad the Impaler, and Hitler.
2. Everyone gets a length of pipe and a daily crack at Nancy Kerrigan's knee.
1. Fortune to be made on "Welcome, O.J." t-shirts.
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07-26-2007, 06:28 PM
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Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Originally Posted by YoAdrian
Just because a majority of people believe in something, that doesn't make it true. 
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Yes, but the reverse is also true.
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07-26-2007, 06:40 PM
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Location: Nashville, Tn
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Fleet wrote:
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Originally Posted by YoAdrian
Just because a majority of people believe in something, that doesn't make it true.
Yes, but the reverse is also true.
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You're right, it doesn't. Millions of people believe in astrology which can't possibly be true and it can be shown to be false in a number of ways but that doesn't stop the people who believe it. I feel that rational thinking and an open mind are the best tools we have to weed out the false beliefs from those that are factual. That's why I'm an atheist.
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07-26-2007, 06:46 PM
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Ditto.
("Must be ten characters...")
Ditto, again. 
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07-27-2007, 02:35 AM
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Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I feel that rational thinking and an open mind are the best tools we have to weed out the false beliefs from those that are factual.
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I agree. And believing in an afterlife is very rational to me.
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That's why I'm an atheist.
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That's your problem, not mine. 
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07-27-2007, 02:37 AM
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Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Originally Posted by YoAdrian
That's kind of condescending, isn't it?
I'd wager that most of the people you encounter who aren't religious were raised in some sort of religion. Meaning that they know the Bible stories very well, and for whatever reason chose to reject them. It's not as if they don't know how the stories go.
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I don't know how that relates to what I've been posting. I've been posting examples of people's experience of the afterlife much more than I've been quoting the Bible.
I don't find that condescending at all.
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07-27-2007, 02:47 AM
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Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Originally Posted by YoAdrian
We're just a collection of nerves, bones, and tissues ... atoms and cells and molecules. How can an eternal soul come out of all these things that are just going to disintegrate when I die? And why would I have this soul when, say, a rock -- made of the same kind of atoms, cells, and molecules -- doesn't? It's all just wishful thinking. Or fear of annihilation. Or human arrogance. Or something like that.
Hey, I could be wrong, since I've never been dead before! But most likely, what happens when you die is just lights out. And that's it. There's no logical reason to think otherwise.
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If you had a NDE, you would most likely feel otherwise.
I'll repeat what I said... many people who have had a NDE are more religious, appreciate life more and know what will happen to them when they "die." But I haven't read one case in which someone had a NDE and said there was nothing beyond mortal life. In other words, the case for the afterlife is far, far more convincing than the case against it.
That is a lot more logical than what you posted!
I'll also repeat something else I said... the belief of an afterlife, in which you are reunited with family and friends and are pain-free and in perfect health is a lot more cheerful and gives more peace of mind than what you think happens after we die.
So you can stay with your depressing belief, we who have faith will keep our encouraging belief.
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07-27-2007, 02:49 AM
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Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Originally Posted by 1410OC
Keep on keepin on, Fleet....
Your name brings to mind
2 Timothy 4:6-8 (New International Version)
6 For I am already being poured out like a drink offering, and the time has come for my departure.
7 I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.
8 Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing.
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I'll do that.
And thanks for that quote. 
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