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Unread 12-23-2010, 08:51 PM
 
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A test tube baby doesnt posses a soul! Just like a transgender woman is not a woman no matter how much of a woman she may look like externally. Just like genetically modified food causes harm because vital keys in the food is missing! Time will expose the souless child
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Unread 12-23-2010, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Murfreesboro (nearer Smyrna), TN
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In a neverending attempt to rile up my sidekicks in the religion forum I thought I'd throw out a confusing situation just to see what people think about it. We all know that the first so called test tube baby was born back in the late seventies in England and became instantly famous. This was the first time that an egg had been fertilized outside of the human body. This does raise certain religious implications because it creates an artificial humanly devised method to allow a pregnancy to begin in the first place. We've had a number of discussions about the soul and how it's implanted into the body. Well, if there's a soul does it pop into the test tube at the appropriate moment or does it hang out for several days until the multiplying cells have been put back into the human body? Ok, yes I know I'm being my usual overly analytical self but it really is a legitimate question. What do you think?
The soul is not part of the person, like you indicate. The soul IS the person.

Charles Sands
Smyrna, TN
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Unread 12-23-2010, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Murfreesboro (nearer Smyrna), TN
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A test tube baby doesnt posses a soul! Just like a transgender woman is not a woman no matter how much of a woman she may look like externally. Just like genetically modified food causes harm because vital keys in the food is missing! Time will expose the souless child
Where do you get that a test tube baby does not have a soul. It is produced with Egg and Sperm, right????? A trans-gendered woman has to be a woman, or she wouldn't be called... wait for it --- A WOMAN!!!!

Charles Sands
Smyrna, TN
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Unread 12-23-2010, 09:21 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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In a neverending attempt to rile up my sidekicks in the religion forum I thought I'd throw out a confusing situation just to see what people think about it. We all know that the first so called test tube baby was born back in the late seventies in England and became instantly famous. This was the first time that an egg had been fertilized outside of the human body. This does raise certain religious implications because it creates an artificial humanly devised method to allow a pregnancy to begin in the first place. We've had a number of discussions about the soul and how it's implanted into the body. Well, if there's a soul does it pop into the test tube at the appropriate moment or does it hang out for several days until the multiplying cells have been put back into the human body? Ok, yes I know I'm being my usual overly analytical self but it really is a legitimate question. What do you think?
First breath. It carries the soul into the body. Genesis 2:7 for the religious folks. "And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

It jes don' get no clearer dan dat, cher!

20yrsinBranson
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Unread 12-23-2010, 09:47 PM
 
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First breath. It carries the soul into the body. Genesis 2:7 for the religious folks. "And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

It jes don' get no clearer dan dat, cher!

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Unread 12-24-2010, 12:15 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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if there's a soul

When do non test tube babies receive their souls?
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Unread 12-24-2010, 07:51 AM
 
Location: OKC
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When do non test tube babies receive their souls?
Leprechauns visit them in the middle of their first night and place it in their appendix, (which is also why children who have their appendix removed lose their soul.)
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Unread 12-24-2010, 08:43 AM
 
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Leprechauns visit them in the middle of their first night and place it in their appendix, (which is also why children who have their appendix removed lose their soul.)
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Unread 12-24-2010, 10:32 AM
 
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A test tube baby doesnt posses a soul! Just like a transgender woman is not a woman no matter how much of a woman she may look like externally. Just like genetically modified food causes harm because vital keys in the food is missing! Time will expose the souless child

wow, no one is without a soul. We are all G-ds children.
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Unread 12-24-2010, 11:41 AM
 
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First breath. It carries the soul into the body. Genesis 2:7 for the religious folks. "And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

It jes don' get no clearer dan dat, cher!

20yrsinBranson
thank you! makes sense!
i've been pondering over this conundrum for several years. i was beginning to reside with the belief the soul must be attached to the sperma.
spermas are very much alive and under some type of intelligence...it's a mad race to get to that egg or eggs you know, competition is very stiff. you have to compete with any where from 100,000 to 1,000,000+ spermats all wanting to get there. each sperm is different person- each sperm's genetic make-up/packing is different. so most of us really worked our tails off to get here.

anyway what you said makes sense. thanks.
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