Did Jesus ever say he is God or Worship him? (hell, prophecies)

[ancient warrior]

>>Archaeological sources. Recent digs have provided key background information. One inscription, for example, indicates that a Judean census occurred during the reign of Emperor Augustus (23 B.C. – A.D. 14), lending credibility to Luke’s story of the Roman taxation which brought Joseph and Mary to Bethlehem.<<

RESPONSE:

1. Please cite your source of this information.

2. "Although universal registrations of Roman citizens are attested in 28 B.C., 8 B.C., and A.D. 14 and enrollments in individual provinces of those who are not Roman citizens are also attested, such a universal census of the Roman world under Caesar Augustus is unknown outside the New Testament." (New American Bible)

Caesar Augustus 27 BC - AD 14

There was indeed a census of Judea in 6 AD according to Josephus on the occasion of Archulaus, Herod's succerror, being exiled. This was conducted under the Roman govenor, Quirinius.

However, this did not include Galilee's residents in which Nazareth is located. It remained under the rule of Herod's other son, Antipas, until about 34 AD.

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

Lawyers are adept at creating exceptions to the admittance and use of hearsay . . . but that does not change its fundamental character . . . it is still hearsay at base.

Originally Posted by Boxcar Overkill

There are exceptions to the hearsay rule, but there are also out of court statements which are not hearsay at base.

To be hearsay, it must not only be an out-of-court statement, but it also must be used to prove the truth of the matter asserted. For example, a police officer could testify that a radio dispatcher told him there was an armed gunman at the corner of 1st and main. That would be hearsay if it were used to prove that a gunman was actually at the corner of 1st and main, (the truth of the matter asserted) but would not be hearsay if it was used to prove the police officer's intent when he drew his gun as he exited the car.

That may be complicated, but the point is that not all out-of-court statements are considered hearsay, (independent of the hearsay exceptions.)

Ah . . . QED! You are sure to be excellent in court, Boxcar.

[turbo700]

If Jesus thought he was God why did he say, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me.” John 14:6-7. This obviously lets you know he thinks there is someone above him.

[Assss]

How can Jesus be God if he used to eat."Give us our daily bread".Does this sound like God praying and we all know what happens to the body after eating food.Can u imagine that?.Second,it says in the gospel of Matthew that Jesus "fell on his face and prayed".Does this sound like God.Not only that.If he had power,he wouldn't let the jews hit him and toutring him so bad.Moreover,he wasn't even Christian.The truth is there.just have to remove the sand to see it.

[ancient warrior]

Originally Posted by turbo700

If Jesus thought he was God why did he say, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me.” John 14:6-7. This obviously lets you know he thinks there is someone above him.

RESPONSE:

1. Yes. You are quoting John's gosple created in 95 to 105 AD. It is the only gospel that implies, but never states, the Jesus is divine or other than merely the messiah. Yes, it also state "If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I,'"

2. Matthew, Mark, Luke, Acts, and Paul's Epistles contain no "I am" saying. They were evidently made up by hte writers of the gospel we call John's.

[ancient warrior]

Originally Posted by Assss

How can Jesus be God if he used to eat."Give us our daily bread".Does this sound like God praying and we all know what happens to the body after eating food.Can u imagine that?.Second,it says in the gospel of Matthew that Jesus "fell on his face and prayed".Does this sound like God.Not only that.If he had power,he wouldn't let the jews hit him and toutring him so bad.Moreover,he wasn't even Christian.The truth is there.just have to remove the sand to see it.

RESPONSE:

Of course, the larger question is, if he was God, was his praying really only talking to himself?

Again, the synoptic gospels and Acts of the Apostles, show that Jesus was considered to be the messiah, but not divine himself.

[urbancharlotte]

Did Jesus ever say he is God or Worship him?

No, he did not.

[Fred314X]

Originally Posted by urbancharlotte

Did Jesus ever say he is God or Worship him?

No, he did not.

Yes, but the frightening part of the deal is that there are lots of people walking around who think he did!

[Boxcar Overkill]

If we rely upon the magic book created by the catholic church years after Jesus had passed, we know that Jesus was a carpenter who turned into a zombie after the villagers tried to kill him.


This is fairly God like.

[C.E.O]

Did Jesus ever say he is God or Worship him?

No, he didn't.