Why do atheists care what people believe? (service, minority, proof)

[Arjay51]

Originally Posted by TKramar

How am I making any type of judgement? I did not say that you were wrong to actively disbelieve. Nowhere did I tell you that you were wrong.

You keep insisting that an atheists disbelief is active. That is a judgement on your part especially after it has been explained to you time and again.

Either you are intentionally dense or are trolling to avoid the truth.

In either case you continue to make judgements and then deny it.

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by Arjay51

You keep insisting that an atheists disbelief is active. That is a judgement on your part especially after it has been explained to you time and again.

Either you are intentionally dense or are trolling to avoid the truth.

In either case you continue to make judgements and then deny it.

Are you saying you didn't have the free will available to make the choice? If you make a choice, you have done something active, not passive.

[stan4]

Originally Posted by Vanskills

I always find is amusing when i go to the "religion" forum on various forums how militant atheists are about hating everything religious.

Why do you care that the VAST majority of people on the planet believe in God?

Personally i could care less if people worship Jesus, Allah, birds, frogs, chickens or a rock. Moderator cut: Inappropriate language do i care? thats their right...

I believe in god, just not organized religion.

However, I think I can answer your question.

The reason they care is that the religious people often use their religion to justify their hatred, bigotry, slanted lawmaking, etc. They try to legislate their morality and intrude upon other people's lives. THAT is the biggest reason I can think of for an active atheist movement (as opposed to a passive non-believing atheist group).

[TKramar]

Even if society was made up totally of atheists, they would try to legislate their idea of what is right on each other. That's my problem with "society"...far too controlling.

[stan4]

Originally Posted by TKramar

Even if society was made up totally of atheists, they would try to legislate their idea of what is right on each other. That's my problem with "society"...far too controlling.

Yes, but they would be compelled to argue about what's right and wrong based on logic. Not fall back on some ancient fairy tale book and babble nonsense like, "Because god says so." You can't have a sensible and rational conversation with anyone who just says, "Nuh uh...cuz the bible says so."

[AREQUIPA]

Originally Posted by TKramar

Look it up in your Funk and Wagnall's. Or your Webster's.

I think I'd take the word of lexicographers over someone who is seeking to change the etymological definition of the word to match his own personal denotation.

Would you care to set out your definitions (suddenly because it suits you, you are quoting written authority as chipped in stone fact) and how it makes non - belief somehow 'active'. I know you are wrong, by the way, as non - belief is a passive reaction to a non - established claim, but I just like to watch theist apologists wriggle, like semantic annelids.

[slambango]

Originally Posted by TKramar

Are you saying you didn't have the free will available to make the choice? If you make a choice, you have done something active, not passive.

Freewill concerns ACTIONS not beliefs.
I can't choose to believe things I know are untrue.
I can't choose to disbelieve something I'm compelled to believe.

[stan4]

Yeah...I've never understood it when someone says, "I choose to believe..."

No, you don't. You can't choose to believe something. You choose to self-delude.

[Arjay51]

Originally Posted by TKramar

Are you saying you didn't have the free will available to make the choice? If you make a choice, you have done something active, not passive.

No choice involved as there is nothing to this belief of yours.

The only thing active in this discussion is your continued judgement of all who oppose your proclaimations. That and you continuing to delude yourself and attempting to delude others into thinking that your beliefs are of any value to anyone other than yourself.

[Arjay51]

Originally Posted by TKramar

Even if society was made up totally of atheists, they would try to legislate their idea of what is right on each other. That's my problem with "society"...far too controlling.

There you go again with your "if" arguement. Supposing unproven and unprovable ideas to be facts and advocating action upon these "facts".

Good thing that you are in charge of nothing. You try hard enough to narrow the world to your limited viewpoint as is. Failing of course.