Pope John Paul II currently one miracle shy of saint-hood (quote, Catholics)

[gabfest]

Pope John Paul II on course to become saint in record time - Telegraph

what if you're a saint? how would you know? i don't think you could know; it seems it has to be determined after death.

gabfest is not applying for sainthood but gabfest has experienced saint-envy. forgive me.

[Currency Pair Crocodile]

If they also canonize Pope Pius XII, I'll have one evil laugh

[beeveenh]

I don't understand what this means, to Catholics, as far as his position in heaven. I have differing beliefs, but I am not trying to debate. I just would like to hear from a Catholic, what exactly this means to them. If everyone who goes to heaven is not a saint, then what is a saint in reference to the angels and others.
Just wondering...

[allenk893]

Originally Posted by beeveenh

I don't understand what this means, to Catholics, as far as his position in heaven. I have differing beliefs, but I am not trying to debate. I just would like to hear from a Catholic, what exactly this means to them. If everyone who goes to heaven is not a saint, then what is a saint in reference to the angels and others.
Just wondering...

He has no position in Heaven. No pope does.

For God says

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men--the testimony given in its proper time.

[beeveenh]

allenk...as I said, I believe differently. I am not Catholic, but I would like to understand what this means for Catholics.

[ted08721]

As a Catholic I find this whole sainthood thing completely overrated, although a small minority of Catholics get off on it.

[ted08721]

In fact if John Paul II does get sainthood it will prove what a fraud the whole thing is.

[gabfest]

Originally Posted by ted08721

In fact if John Paul II does get sainthood it will prove what a fraud the whole thing is.

that's kinda what i was worried about.

[ted08721]

But I will have to say some good has come from the saint business, St. Judes Hospital for Children would be a prime example, so I can't say it is all bad.
There are some saints whose lives have inspired others to do much good.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by allenk893

He has no position in Heaven. No pope does.

For God says

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men--the testimony given in its proper time.

god probably never said that.