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If he comes back, get ready for the ever-so-predictable "I must have really hit a nerve to get these sort of responses. That must mean something!" post, implying the we know he's right deep down inside, but just want to deny the truth for some diabolical reason.
LOL@hit a nerve.
It seems that some can twist anything to their own reasoning.
But it is 100% there is for the sensibly percipient; fact and opinion. My opinion might be wrong, but facts I come across I can never be wrong about. A good one could be: could someone come onto God's factual existence before he is raised to believe thus? But that's neither religion nor philosophy, more superstition.
You're being dishonest. The evidence against God may be overwhelming, in your opinion. But, you cannot be 100% sure. No one can.
With 100% certainty friend. You say that because from your extreme level of belief you cannot even fathom not believing, much less completely dismissing the concepts of gods, it is just beyond anything you can imagine.
But to be fair, the levels of belief I see in these forums, are as equally beyond anything I can wrap my head around. I often feel like, these people can't be serious, I must have entered into a forum dedicated to role playing, but instead of Dungeons and Dragons, it Deities and Devils.
What percentage of certainty do you give to the existence of the god you believe in?
With 100% certainty friend. You say that because from your extreme level of belief you cannot even fathom not believing, much less completely dismissing the concepts of gods, it is just beyond anything you can imagine.
But to be fair, the levels of belief I see in these forums, are as equally beyond anything I can wrap my head around. I often feel like, these people can't be serious, I must have entered into a forum dedicated to role playing, but instead of Dungeons and Dragons, it Deities and Devils.
What percentage of certainty do you give to the existence of the god you believe in?
I believe by faith. Faith is not real if there isn't a bit of doubt.
You may have no doubts. As I've matured spiritually, my level of doubt has decreased. I've seen too much evidence of God's hand in my life & the lives of my family & friends to have any serious doubts.
You're being dishonest. The evidence against God may be overwhelming, in your opinion. But, you cannot be 100% sure. No one can.
I'm glad you got this far. This is really the nub of the matter. How much evidence do you need before you accept a belief? Where is the stage at which one in simply clinging to the smallest percentage of doubt in order to maintain a treasured belief?
Time and again, I have come up against those who see it simply as a 'believe or not' question. The weight of evidence should be the only valid factor in the argument. In fact, maintaining Faith in the face of overwhelming evidence against turns out to be, time and again, the only real factor.
This is why atheists talk of 'blind faith' and they are right to do so.
You're being dishonest. The evidence against God may be overwhelming, in your opinion. But, you cannot be 100% sure. No one can.
Again, which God? I'll bet you're pretty sure that Odin doesn't exist, no? You can't be 100% sure of anything, true but you can use logic and reason to weed out the absurdities.
Tell me, which one of these two statements seems more likely to be true?
1) There are pink polka dotted elephants on mars who communicate telepathically with humans on Earth.
2) There is microscopic bacteria living in the frigid water under the ice on Europa.
Your biblical god (and Odin) is akin to #1. Yes, there may be a "God" or creator out there but if so it is a far more reasonable, intelligent and rational being than Bible god. Such a being will simply NOT be the anthropomorphic, jealous, angry child who hears prayers, gives commandments, cares what you do on Sundays, what you eat or who you marry/have sex with and who cleans up its messes by sending its "son" to die in primitive blood sacrifices. Sorry!
How do you explain how the earth and the universe was created in the first place? If there was nothing before the universe and space, then how would have something been created if there was nothing? Something can't come out of nothing. It's virtually impossible. There has to be something or someone who created this and us.
Just because we do not have all the answers should not equate to there being a necessity for a higher power. It just means we don't have all the answers. God, or a higher power, is based upon faith. Not evidence, not theory. Just faith. You are asking atheists to answer questions that religious folks don't bother to answer. Faith is not an answer to a question. It is a way to avoid accepting that a question exists in the first place.
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