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I understand they do, but surely you understand where the feelings are coming from? Most of the problems Jews have had have come from Christians. The other religions like Buddism don't have the same history with how they treated Jews. I know Jewish atheists and agnostics families in my chavurah, they still practice the cultural side of Judaism. They still consider themselves Jews.
There is a long and troubled history between Jews and Christians. There is also the belief in Christianity that they need to prosletyse and bring people to Christian belief.
Yes, I surely do understand where the feelings are coming from. I was discriminated by anti-semitic Christians myself as a child, however, the religion (that teaches to love thy neighbor as you love yourself) is not to blame for atrocities that people have committed.
I also know plenty of Jewish atheists and agnostics who practice cultural side of Judaism, however, as you know works without faith is practically useless. As a Messianic Jew, I also still practice many of the traditional Jewish Holidays, probably a lot more than most of the Jewish atheists and yet, mention the word "Christ" and somehow you are less of a Jew than the one who denies G-d completely.
I do understand the resentful feeling of people who practice Judaism towards those Christians who constantly proselytize, especially when it comes to children.
Mom2JustinSarah,
Thank you so much for your explanation, it was very interesting. However, this belief is pretty much identical to what Hebrew Christians believe.
[quote=max's mama;17905438]Yes, I surely do understand where the feelings are coming from. I was discriminated by anti-semitic Christians myself as a child, however, the religion (that teaches to love thy neighbor as you love yourself) is not to blame for atrocities that people have committed.
I will differ on that I think Christianity is to blame and the anti semitic atrocities can be traced back to the church leaders who accused Jews of deicide and blood libel.
I also know plenty of Jewish atheists and agnostics who practice cultural side of Judaism, however, as you know works without faith is practically useless. As a Messianic Jew, I also still practice many of the traditional Jewish Holidays, probably a lot more than most of the Jewish atheists and yet, mention the word "Christ" and somehow you are less of a Jew than the one who denies G-d completely.
One can be a secular Jew and a religious Jew because we are part of a religon and part of a people. I don't see a problem.
I do understand the resentful feeling of people who practice Judaism towards those Christians who constantly proselytize, especially when it comes to children.
It is the belief that Christians need to prosletyse that makes us wary of Christians. In my hebrew class my teacher was telling us that they had a Christian who was taking the class and then handing out Christian pamplets out in the parking lot after class. That is why there is mistrust. My shul opens all its Hebrew classes to both Jew and non Jew. But it is not right to try to convert Jews.
Yes,they are known as Messianic Jews who believe in Jesus Christ.
But most Jews do not recognize them as Jewish. I explored Judaism for awhile and I was cautioned to not "be fooled" by Messianic Jews. Since Judaism is so much more than just a religion I don't think that a Jew who converts to Christianity is ever not going to consider themselves "Jewish" but their religion would no longer be Judaism.
Yes, I surely do understand where the feelings are coming from. I was discriminated by anti-semitic Christians myself as a child, however, the religion (that teaches to love thy neighbor as you love yourself) is not to blame for atrocities that people have committed.
I also know plenty of Jewish atheists and agnostics who practice cultural side of Judaism, however, as you know works without faith is practically useless. As a Messianic Jew, I also still practice many of the traditional Jewish Holidays, probably a lot more than most of the Jewish atheists and yet, mention the word "Christ" and somehow you are less of a Jew than the one who denies G-d completely.
I do understand the resentful feeling of people who practice Judaism towards those Christians who constantly proselytize, especially when it comes to children.
Right, you are still culturally Jewish but once you decide to believe in Jesus you are a Christian.
IN SHORT... For Jews, anything that even remotely conflicts with the idea that God is One and Indivisible will be rejected because it precludes true, pure, monotheism. The idea that there is a God in heaven above who fights against a god of the underworld, or hell, is not monotheism, however, it is the same duality found in other pagan faiths. The Bible speaks of a character known as The Satan, who acts like a prosecuting attorney, or a district attorney, in God's court. However, The Satan has no power or authority in and of himself, rather he must get permission from the Judge, God, to do anything.
A Jewish friend once described The Satan to me as providing a similar function to the character Slugworth in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. LOL.
Right, you are still culturally Jewish but once you decide to believe in Jesus you are a Christian.
Well, duh...rocket scientist.
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