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Old 02-20-2011, 07:51 AM
 
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God has helped you succeed in business, get a new home, get a new SUV, helped your kids through their hospital stays etc. What has he done for the billion people on the planet, mostly children who are sick, starving or suffering from the effects of malnutrition?

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Old 02-20-2011, 08:47 AM
 
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God has helped you succeed in business, get a new home, get a new SUV, helped your kids through their hospital stays etc. What has he done for the billion people on the planet, mostly children who are sick, starving or suffering from the effects of malnutrition?



God has allow the Christian Church to grow. And because of this. Christians by the tens of thousands have built hospitals and schools all over the earth to help the starving and suffering. And they have been doing this, for hundreds of years.
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Old 02-20-2011, 09:02 AM
 
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God has allow the Christian Church to grow. And because of this. Christians by the tens of thousands have built hospitals and schools all over the earth to help the starving and suffering. And they have been doing this, for hundreds of years.
Yes giving medical care with one hand and handing out prosletysing pamplets with the other hand.........

So G-d allowed the Christian church to grow so Christians can help all the unfortunate........

But don't you believe that all the unfortunate are that way because G-d has caused it? And don't you believe that the suffering is G-ds punishment?

So why do Christians want to undo what they believe G-d has caused?
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Old 02-20-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Pawnee Nation
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God has helped you succeed ............
You've been listening to WAY too many name it and claim it televangelists. Go do a serious chat with Mystic or Ptsum........sort of study at their feet like an acolyte to a reverend master..........then ask your silly questions.......but then, you won't need to, will you?
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Old 02-20-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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I have to agree with Goodpasture these questions are ridiculous.
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Old 02-20-2011, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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I have to agree with Goodpasture these questions are ridiculous.
The most obvious thing in the world is if there is a living god he/she/it doesn't give a damn about the inhabitants of this planet.
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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The most obvious thing in the world is if there is a living god he/she/it doesn't give a damn about the inhabitants of this planet.
again, we have a difference of semantics......and definitions. You too have been listening to too many televangelists.

If you give God credit for winning a football game then you must also give him blame for a child being ill.
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:34 PM
 
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again, we have a difference of semantics......and definitions. You too have been listening to too many televangelists.

If you give God credit for winning a football game then you must also give him blame for a child being ill.
Credit??

I said, if it's alive it obviously does not care, at all. I personally doubt the existence of a god. One thing's for sure. There's no way to prove one's alive.

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Old 02-20-2011, 12:44 PM
 
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We are them. They are us. Christians vs. non-Christians, Americans vs. Africans--all those "categories" don't matter. We are all souls made of pure love or God. We are God because we have God inside us. The more we see ourselves as separate, the more we resist each other, engage in warfare, the more we suffer. When we begin to see that we are all truly one, and understand that separateness is an illusion, suffering ends. This is because we are all the highest level of compassion and love, and we no longer feel the need or desire to kill or harm in the name of any concept. We also realize that we are all personally responsible for suffering--which means WE can change the face of the planet by the choices we make internally. It's up to each and everyone one of US to end suffering. We can't blame other people or God or outside forces. It's our own doing. Once we realize that, we can help eliminate suffering in other countries, and suffering next door, and suffering in ourselves.

God is love. God does not and cannot cause suffering. It is only us that causes suffering.
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:47 PM
 
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"God is love. God does not and cannot cause suffering. It is only us that causes suffering."

some people actually loved building the pyramids. A great testimony to the sun God.
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