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Old 02-27-2011, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Oregon
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The Bible shows that man has to eat from the same tree: the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. To taste the good one must also taste the evil. Mankind must learn of both the good and the evil.

God does evil that good will come. Man is not always able to do this.

Isaiah says God is the creator of Evil. This does not make Him evil.
The outcome of this life with all its attendant evils far far outweighs all the evils we endure in such a short life.

Look at it this way: here is a dot followed by a line:
. __________________________________________________
That dot represents you life. It might last a year or ten years or 120 years. The line after that dot is the length of God's blessings which come out of the evil you endured in such a short time. And actually, that line never ends!

God is good and the Bible tells us that "God is working all together for good."

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>>The Bible shows....????????<<

Is that what we are supposed to put faith in?
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Oregon
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God GAVE us free will... YOU decide your future. He lets people choose to believe in Him or turn their cheeks and cause destruction. God rewards those who worship Him and God loves everyone, since everyone is God's people.

Of course, God cares about us, including you.
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If the result of that is having to be crucified to satisfy God's peculiar sense of justice, perhaps it would be better if he didn't. You think?
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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The riddle speak of believers is amusing, perplexing, and a clear indicator of the irrational concept of this god, who begot a son (through magic, not biology) but then when this off spring was nailed up, it was him?

How does one come to believe this rambling nonsense?
I can't see how you can't grasp the concept AN. It's quite logical really. Look......


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Old 02-27-2011, 10:52 AM
 
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I can't see how you can't grasp the concept AN. It's quite logical really. Look......

Ow Ow Ow owie......... you made me hurt my head, must go hide in dark place with my security blanket for a while

How could I have not seen that
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:58 AM
 
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God cares so much about us that he allowed Himself to be nailed to a wooden cross by evil humans. Clearly this world is an evil place. And this is not where those who love God will end up. God helps those who reach out to Him. It has always been that way. And I have reached out to God all my life. And discovered He responds to those who love Him.


Yes he does even to those who are not Christian............
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:45 AM
 
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The riddle speak of believers is amusing, perplexing, and a clear indicator of the irrational concept of this god, who begot a son (through magic, not biology) but then when this off spring was nailed up, it was him?

How does one come to believe this rambling nonsense?


God exist as three persons, just as an atom exist with three elements. Would you suggest an atom is rambling nonsense?

How does one come to ignore obvious realities?
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:47 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Is it too much to expect an all-knowing and loving God to prevent his children from making choices that are harmful to them and others?
If you don't value love or free will then I guess it isn't.
Love is all about free will, otherwise it could not be love; love is the opposite of trying to control others.

Preventing people from making certain choices, whether they are harmful or not, negates free will.
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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Yes he does even to those who are not Christian............
And yet God tells us that non Christians will have no place in heaven. God cares for all that is true. Yet if most reject God, His love alone will not save them. Scripture is clear on this. Only those who give their life to Jesus will be saved.
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:52 AM
 
Location: East Coast U.S.
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It would appear that XX1X has done a disappearing act.
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:10 PM
 
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Tricky D posted:

>> So you regard freedom or free will as a sign that someone doesn't care?
Or do you rather have someone else make the decisions for you instead of making them yourself?

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Is it too much to expect an all-knowing and loving God to prevent his children from making choices that are harmful to them and others?
That is an excellent question a.w.!

If God gave mankind a will that is free from His control that would be like
an earthly father giving his children free reign and not controlling them.
They might run into the highway, they might play with the father's loaded
guns and get into his booze. We would consider such an earthly father as
incapable of properly raising his children.

Dan 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and
he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the
inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him,
What doest thou?
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