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For believers, do you think that the antichrist is supposed to be an actual human being? Also, is the father of the antichrist supposed to be satan? If so, it sounds like the reverse of Jesus. Does it have to be a man? I did have a coworker who had many antichrist qualities but she was a woman. Also, does satan have to play by God's rules? Why would satan allow his antichrist son to be born at a predicted time described in the Bible?
No anti Christ is to be opposite Jesus and God...doing the opposite...the anti or unthinkable...in regards to what has been spoken by God and or Christ Jesus to us.
To be like God..is to Give freely all the givens, to share, to care for all living things...to make Edens as the multiple of EDEN...to restore the plants, and animals into a estate of wellness..and oneness with God and Christ and those who do the will of God...which has been at the begining of the Bible for a very long time....sowing seeds...all the plants in order..and in their rightful placement...to put back what was taken...to understand that in all all are partners of the chain of Life...of those that God made Good, and blessed, and sowed into being.
The anti of that is death...corruption...human sacrifices...animal sacrifices..and worshipping things God did not make, or intend to be worshipped or made to rule over others.
If the Anti Christ is to be born..and I say it is aleady in the world we make with that IDOL of engraven imaged money ideal...and the pay pay pay while seeing and knowing all the sins, and evils are with it always!
Then the anti christ is a body or mindset to the opposite and or oposing of what God and Christ have said, did do, and in them who understand and tried...are now trying to slaughter...so that the truth of Edens never becomes a reality.....and so death through sin continues...on.
ofcourse someone will eventually fulfill what God asked for..and that Christ leads us to...if we follow certain ideals set up by God, and Christ..to perfect the Eden principle in secret...and then REV 17:17 comes into play.
Ah the Kingdom of God...Now that cannot be stopped...but them Anti to it are trying...and the number of that beast of death sin and evil is the number of humans opposed and destroying/polluting/drunk on the blood of the dead...harming the earth and all life for a IDOL of wealth!
A body of many!
a number of stupidity..loco...600,600,600.06 a human number? or is it more when multiplied out 77 times?...and they all have the mark of the beast in their heads and hearts and the IDOL in their hands and pockets or bank accounts..to have to enslave themselves into doing the harming of the earth to get it.
Woe to them who harm the Earth...is for Just such an occassion...eh?
THe word "Christ " means "anointed one". If you were to lie about Jesus to people and say that he is not who he said he was, or proclaimed Jesus a liar and decieved people into thinking he was something he was not, then you are antichrist. That is what Islam does. If you are Islammic, you deem Christ to be but a false prophet who never defeated death. If you are Christian, you are antiIslam and deem Muhammad false in his teachings.
Had an interesting thought. What if the "anti-christ" isn't a person, but a collection of people? Could an entire government (or government body) be considered the anti-christ? Or what about secret society groups, such as the Freemasons or the Illuminati? What about international organizations such as the UN?
I'm sure this has been thought of and discussed before. It was just an interesting thought that recently struck me.
Hello, ionerice: The last HOUR was in John's day. John states that his contemporaries have heard that anti-Christ would come and that there were already anti-Christs in their day. It was the presence of the many anti-Christs that let them know that it was the last hour. John's words to his readers have to do with their day and not ours. That is the clear context.
Before we look at the antichrist, I want to look at the real Christ. Who is He? Let us go to the scriptures to find out what and Who He claimed to be. Mathew 12:6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple...
The temple, the priesthood, and the religious system including all the ceremonies, the sacrifices, and the law of the Jewish nation go hand in hand. It was the mainstay and focal point of the life of Israel. Yet Jesus claimed to be greater. Greater even than the very High priest who no doubt would take great interest in hearing a report of these words. Greater even than the law itself, because He was the lawgiver. ....38 ¶ Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here...
Jonah was the most powerful and successful of all OT prophets. In all 40 odd chapters of Jeremiah, there is no record of anyone at anytime taking the slightest bit of notice of anything Jeremiah said. Yet Jonah, on the strength of just one or two sermons, converted the entire city of Nineveh of the children of Ishmael totaling maybe 60,000 people. By any standards, that has got to be recorded as a very successful evangelistic campaign. Yet Jesus claimed to be greater than Jonah. ...42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.
Solomon was the wisest and wealthiest and most successful of any ruler of the ancient world. Yet Jesus claimed to be greater even than Solomon. He claimed to be a greater priest than the current high priest of Israel, He claimed to be a greater prophet than Jonah, and He claimed to be a greater King than Solomon. In these three startling claims, we have before us the threefold ministry of Jesus. Priest, prophet, and King.
It has been said, and I think wisely, that the Bible must be understood grammatically before it can be understood theologically. Anti- as in antichrist, according to Strong's concordance, and like other words having the prefix 'anti', means at it's most basic form "in the room of", "instead of", or "in the place of".
In other words, 'antichrist' stands as a substitute. We all know that Satan works by deception. Yet many claim the 'antichrist' will be one who will charge in on a black horse guns blazing with fury and hatred directed at all things Christian and opposing with great force the church. Pray tell me, how will the world be deceived by such a tactic as this?
In 2 Thess. 2:1 we are told that there was to be a falling away first, which will reveal the antichrist, or as Paul describes him, the man of sin or son of perdition. Now falling away in this instance is a falling into apostasy; divorce.
Any divorce necessitates a prior favourable relationship. The only other example of a 'son of perdition' is Judas Iscariot. Did Judas openly and with force oppose Christ? Did he attack His teachings and disagree with Jesus claims to divinity? Did he argue and debate everything Jesus stood for and seek the destruction of His followers? No. Not by any means. Judas betrayed Jesus with a kiss. He betrayed Him with an act of apparent love, fellowship, and friendship. He undermined and betrayed Jesus at the same time as claiming Him to be his friend!! The falling away was a falling away from truth into a state of apostasy. The result was an antichrist system that still claimed to be the truth of God. Still claiming to be Christian, yet in essence, opposing the true work of Christ by teaching lies.
This squares perfectly with the meaning of antichrist. He is not an opposer, but a subtle impostor. A counterfeit. An impostor of Jesus Christ. A false copy, or forgery of the true. Antichrist is therefore a person or power who impersonates the offices of Priesthood, the Prophet or spokesmanship, and the Kingly rule of Christ. The office that ministers for God, speaks for God, and rules for God.
The falling away that Paul spokeindeed did take place just as he said. Jesus' letter to the church of Ephesus (Revelation 2) reveals the beginning of this process. During the ensuing centuries, political instability within the Roman Empire resulted in Germanic barbarian tribes taking over the former territories of the western portion of the empire. Constantine moved the capital to the east, and Rome was left without a leader. This void was filled by the bishops of Rome, many of whom were more politically minded than religious. Power corrupted them, and by the 6th century the apostasy was well under way, the formation of a church/state union which was the vehicle for the introduction of many pagan superstitions and practices entering the church.
Satan has many counterfeits. Now counterfeits are almost identical to the true. You do not get counterfeit 99$ notes. You get counterfeit 100$ notes. And unless you get trained and disciplined to know intimately the true 100$ note, you will not recognise the false. It has been estimated that every person in America who has regularly handled 100$ notes, has had pass through their hands a counterfeit at least 4 times a year! And not known it!!!! Unless you are intimately acquainted with the true Jesus, how will you recognise the counterfeit?
In Revelation 14:6-12 God has the final message of warning that His people must deliver before He comes. It is shown as being preached by 3 angels. This is figurative, for it is the responsibility of the church to preach the gospel. It however can be understood that angels are directing and overseeing the preaching. Satan however has a counterfeit message. We see this in Revelation 16:13,14. "And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty."
This is a threefold message of demons opposing and deceiving the world at the time of the end.
Another counterfeit is the false trinity. We see the two trinities opposing one another throughout the book of Revelation. On the one side the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. On the other, the dragon or Satan, the sea-beast or antichrist in Rev 13, and the land-beast or false prophet of the same chapter. Let us look at some of the parallels, with particular interest on the sea-beast. Dragon/Satan.
His place in heaven (Rev 12:3,7,8.)
He has a throne. (Rev 13:2, 2:13)
Gives throne, power, and authority to sea-beast. (13:2,4.)
He is worshipped. (13:4a)
Destroyed forever. (20:9,10)
Now compare: God the Father
Dwelling in heaven (Rev 4,5)
He has a throne. (4:5; 7:9-15; 19:4)
Gives throne, power and authority to Jesus. (Math 28:18 Rev 2:27; 3:21; chapters 4,5.)
Is worshipped. (Rev 4:10; 15:4)
Lives and reign forever. (4:9; 5:13; 11:15)
The Land-beast or false prophet.
Called the false prophet because he decieves people with regards to religious matters. (16:13; 19:20; 20:10)
Lamb-like. (13:11)
Exercises all authority of sea-beast. (13:12a)
Directs worship to sea-beast. (13:12b,15)
Performs signs. (13:13; 19:20)
Brings fire down from heaven (13:13)
Gives breath/life to beasts image (13:15)
Applies mark of beast. (13:16)
Now compare: The Holy Spirit
Called the Spirit of truth guiding people. (Jn 16:13 Rev 22:17)
Christ-like. (Jn 1426; 16:14)
Exercises authority of Christ (Jn 16:13,14)
Directs worship to Christ (Acts 5:29-32)
Fire from heaven at Pentecost (Acts 2)
Instills life to us, the image of Christ. (Romans8:11,29)
Applies seal of God. (2 Cor 1:22 Eph 1:13 4:30 Rev 7:3,4.)
The sea-beast or antichrist.
Comes from water to begin activity. (13:1)
Resembles dragon. (12:13 13:1)
Ten diadems. (13:1)
Ten horns (13:1)
Receives power throne and authority from dragon/Satan. (13:2,4)
42 months of activity in first phase. (13:5)
Was slain (13:3)
Resurrected (13:3)
Receives worship after healing (13:3,4,8)
Now compare: Jesus Christ
Comes from water to begin ministry (Luke 3:21-23)
Resembles Father (Jn 14:19)
Many diadems (Rev 19:12)
Lamb has 7 horns (5:6)
Receives power throne and authority from His Father (Math 28:18 Rev 2:27 Chapters 4,5)
42 months of ministry in initial phase. (Gospel of John)
Was slain (Rev 5:6)
Was resurrected (Rev1:18)
Received worship after resurrection (Math 28:17)
Note how very similar the prophetic characteristics of antichrist are to Jesus.
So does the above attributes match any entity or individual in the world today? How does the above sea-beast or antichrist counterfeit the threefold ministry of the true Christ, as Priest, Prophet and King? Is there an entity in the world today who claims to do just this? Is there one like Judas who is betraying the Master with a kiss, all the while claiming to be a friend? Is there in the world today a religious system or religious ruler who claims to be the earthly representative of Christ as His priest, claiming to be a mediator between God and man? Claiming to forgive sin even, which is the sole prerogative of God?
Does this entity also claim the prerogatives of a prophet? Does it claim to speak for God in spiritual matters? Does it claim to stand as God's spokesman on earth and claim that only through it's authority can salvation be found?
And finally, does this entity also claim to be a king? Does it claim authority as a secular power? Does it exercise authority and power within the auspices of a church/state relationship? The answer my friends to all the above questions is a firm yes.There is an entity in the world today who claims all the above Godly prerogatives which belong only to Jesus Christ. Priest, prophet and king.This entity has set itself up as counterfeit and thus can be affirmatively identified as the antichrist, the impostor and impersonator of the true. And this entity can be found in the Roman Catholic church system.
THe word "Christ " means "anointed one". If you were to lie about Jesus to people and say that he is not who he said he was, or proclaimed Jesus a liar and decieved people into thinking he was something he was not, then you are antichrist. That is what Islam does. If you are Islammic, you deem Christ to be but a false prophet who never defeated death. If you are Christian, you are antiIslam and deem Muhammad false in his teachings.
I'm affraid that would make you antichrist when you deny the "anointedness" of Muhamud or Joseph Smith or whoever else. Nope in Islam, Jesus is still pretty anointed. Does this make Muslims "Christian" by the basic definition of the composites of the word? They think both Muhamud and Yeshua were annointed. Muslims see Christians as Idol worshiping neo-pagans disguising themselves as followers of Jesus. to Muslims they are the only ones following Jesus correctly, other than perhaps the Doukhobors, and others who are merely good Jesusites but not Muslim like Jesus was.
wouldn't a more correct "word" be calling yourself an antimuslim, antihellen, antiegyptian, antimesopotamian, antichristian ? I just don't see how being "anti-annointed one" is anything specific. so in your very own ways, you are anti-christ.
I'm not advocating it or saying it is not true in part. I was skeptical, shocked and amazed at how much research went into all of the information presented. I would not recommend this site for youngsters.
Edited to add: The way I found this was by looking up any connection between Shakespeare and the late Diana, Princess of Wales. I wasn't even looking for the antichrist.
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Also, does satan have to play by God's rules? Why would satan allow his antichrist son to be born at a predicted time described in the Bible?
