Evolution Religion and Dinosaurs (America, prophecies, Christianity, Christian)

[Dewdrop93]

Originally Posted by lee9786

Do you think this universe could have fit in that dot? Time to start reading the Bible - a creation account that has historical, archeological evidence. A theory that doesn't defy the laws of physics.

Oh - I see what you are getting at. It is energy that cannot be destroyed - not matter. Have you ever heard of a black hole?

Here's the thing - just because you don't understand how things work or how things could have happened - it doesn't disprove science. It only proves that you don't understand science.

[Mikelee81]

Originally Posted by SeekerSA

Hmm 2011 - 1993 = 18

Yup an 18 yo homeschooled no doubt has far more infinite wisdom than say 100 years of self correcting science.

Oh if you want to prove Hydrogen exists, I can set you up in a dark container full of it with breathing apparatus and a BIC lighter, just a flick and you will be really convinced.

Consider yourself blessed because you are home schooled. You should watch those videos. My argument isn't whether Hydrogen exists. That is observable. What is observable and tested is science. An atom has both matter and space. It is not created nor destroyed, only transferred. So how did something come from nothing or a small dot. The more important question is how did the "void" or small dot get there?! Just as Christians can't explain how God got their, neither can the evolutionists explain about their dot of nothing. Therefore it is not science, but just another religion.

If your young, that means you can better deprogram your thinking from the propaganda coming out of your public schools, TV, Film Industry, Universities and more. This is touted as science, but it is not. There is a larger agenda going on here. If you haven't entirely closed off the credibility of the Bible, I recommend you look up some of Chuck Missler's videos to start off on some Bible study. You might be surprised. This goes for everyone else as well.

[newhandle]

Unfortunately religious fundamentalists are lost. They are still using the same words that have been used before modern science and knowledge. It has not evolved and is not open and relevant, instead it is defensive and has regressed into the lowest common denominator. Many believe in the Flintsones, that dinosaurs and humans lived side by side discrediting the science they use every day in medicine and other technologies. Where I live you can still see the dinosaur tracks, where the mountains have risen and seabeds have fallen.

The purpose of science for the last 500 years has been to explain natural occurances without appeal to the Almighty. Religious fundamentalists would have us go back to the dark ages. Religion needs to tend to the spiritual wellbeing of the world and not poison science with a body of knowledge that thought the earth is flat and the sun revolved around the earth.

"The priests of the different religious sects dread the advance of science as witches do the approach of daylight and scowl on the fatal harbinger announcing the subdivision of the duperies on which they live" Thomas Jefferson, 4/11/1820

[Stavemaster]

Originally Posted by lee9786

Just as Christians can't explain how God got their, neither can the evolutionists explain about their dot of nothing. Therefore it is not science, but just another religion.

a. "how God got there"
b. Evolution is not about the "dot of nothing". Never has been, never will be. Evolution is about the processes involved in speciation- how lifeforms change from generation to generation. If your problem is with the "dot", take it up with a quantum physicist.

[SeekerSA]

Originally Posted by lee9786

And show me the evidence these are as old as you say they are. Radioactive carbon dating is only useful for a couple thousand years. The older the time is, the less and noneffective it becomes. So show me some evidence, not just "Dr. Seuss at University __________ funded by government _________ said so."

Oh silly little bot C14 dating can only be used on carbon based items not stuff like calcium and lime stone, we use other techniques for that and we know the average growth of those spiky thingamajigs (1cm per century) you find in caves and can measure with tape measure or a more sophisticated laser tool and the use simple arithmetic to determine their age, we have been measuring and observing for over 80 years and no need for any other dating method.

See this one? It is the biggest in the world. It is no longer active and has not been since the caves were discovered. And this is the second oldest cave in the world in a semi desert to boot with less than 10" rainfall per anum and high up on a mountain with no lakes or rivers above.



This needle of Cleopatra is several hundred thousand years old ( I do not have the exact age anymore ) and this evidence stands in total contradiction to the biblical timeline of 6000 years. I am sure if you look hard enough, you will find the scientific papers on the caves.

[Mikelee81]

Originally Posted by Dewdrop93

Oh - I see what you are getting at. It is energy that cannot be destroyed - not matter. Have you ever heard of a black hole?

Here's the thing - just because you don't understand how things work or how things could have happened - it doesn't disprove science. It only proves that you don't understand science.

Conservation of matter.<<< While I used the conservation of energy, the points remain. Where did the matter come from?

[dobeable]

Lee man!!!!!!!!!!,ill go for male too thats is how i spell it too,nice name bye the way.

your comin from a place of ignorance IMO,your tryin to say that because the bible,which literally translates as the 'book'',has different theory's than what modern scientists have discovered,that their theorys are wrong

and alot of theirs are theorys too but based on at least some sort of evidence found in whatever they are investigating,or creating,im not a scientist BTW,me brother is,but i do have respect for the years of work that goes into some of these theorys and more immportantly understanfing the way things work,scientists have a descent grasp on alot of things but only the material workings of the universe,when it comes to those things that cant be dedected bye material senses or equipment their a little in the dark,,,,,spiritual things can be taken from a different source.

but your wrong evolution is not a religion,and to be honest it gives a better explanation than the ''book'' does,do you really beleive that Adam and Eve were the first people????

i tell ya what since your so sure that what you beleive is true,you explain what the dinosaurs were and what happened and how long ago it was,,,,,mate,dont beleive everything you read,or bad interpretations of a book that was thrown together bye a roman Eemporer,and changed and butchered for so many years

[mikebnllnb]

What is satan's reason for pushing evolution? There are a great many xians that believe in both god and the science of evolution.

Evolution is not Biogenesis. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life on this planet. If you must use a 2000+ year old book to combat proven modern day science try to understand the science first.

[Mikelee81]

Originally Posted by SeekerSA

Oh silly little bot C14 dating can only be used on carbon based items not stuff like calcium and lime stone, we use other techniques for that and we know the average growth of those spiky thingamajigs (1cm per century) you find in caves and can measure with tape measure or a more sophisticated laser tool and the use simple arithmetic to determine their age, we have been measuring and observing for over 80 years and no need for any other dating method.

See this one? It is the biggest in the world. It is no longer active and has not been since the caves were discovered. And this is the second oldest cave in the world in a semi desert to boot with less than 10" rainfall per anum and high up on a mountain with no lakes or rivers above.



This needle of Cleopatra is several hundred thousand years old ( I do not have the exact age anymore ) and this evidence stands in total contradiction to the biblical timeline of 6000 years. I am sure if you look hard enough, you will find the scientific papers on the caves.

You put these here and they are debunked in Hovind's video. The growth rate on these is not even observable by science.

[Mikelee81]

Originally Posted by mikebnllnb

What is satan's reason for pushing evolution? There are a great many xians that believe in both god and the science of evolution.

Evolution is not Biogenesis. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life on this planet. If you must use a 2000+ year old book to combat proven modern day science try to understand the science first.

Quite easy. If world was proven to be 4.5 billion years old, it would discredit the Bible as the creation account. According to the Bible, this world is 6000 years old. If the world was 4.5 Billion years old, the Bible and the concept of God would be wrong. The problem is it isn't, but many have been lost because of this lie.