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Old 04-23-2011, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Moving through this etheria
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I see absolutely nothing wrong with his request. I will pray for rain in Texas to help put those devastating fires out.
While you could be giving some funds to buy better firefighting equipment? Or perhaps going down to the fire station to hand out cold drinks or homemade egg salad sandwiches? Get real.

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Religious leaders all over the world have been earnestly praying for world peace for decades. Biblegod isn't taking any notice of them. Why would he take any notice of some dude in Texas?
Because we already know George "W" is the chosen one. Just look at God's message to him vis-a-vis invading Iraq? Obviously God's on our side there!

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You don't read very well, do you Mercury. But . . . to tickle your vaunted faith in your logic just a bit . . . Ask yourself what mechanism could be at work for things like the "home field advantage" in sports. Like all things having a large number of fans in sync is not consistent . . . and the presence and numbers of opposing fans is a factor. Just think about it. No need to rebut this post either.
Home field advantage = God's input due to prayer mass & volume alone? Hmmm... And I thought you was an inti-lek-chool! (PS: ever hear of the psychological advantage that lives within each team member when they "perceive" some "home field advantage"? You surprise me, sir. And to think... my bud rifleman spoke very highly of you too... interesting!)
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Old 04-23-2011, 12:40 PM
 
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You don't read very well, do you Mercury. But . . . to tickle your vaunted faith in your logic just a bit . . . Ask yourself what mechanism could be at work for things like the "home field advantage" in sports. Like all things having a large number of fans in sync is not consistent . . . and the presence and numbers of opposing fans is a factor. Just think about it. No need to rebut this post either.
Let's see... being used to the local climatic conditions:
Green Bay Packers, Chicago Bears, Boston Red Sox, Minnesota Twins (rather cold at times of the seasons), Miami Dolphins, Florida Marlins (rather humid at times of the season), Denver Broncos, Colorado Rockies, Denver Nuggets, Colorado Avalanche (far thinner air than any other major league sports franchise in the United States), San Diego Chargers, Los Angeles Dodgers (rather hot at times during the season).

Being used to arena nuances:
Prevailing local winds and the effects of a particular stadium upon them -- difference surfaces (grass v. turf) -- varying ice conditions with arenas -- etc.

Being able to drive to work from home, rather than getting in on a red-eye and sleeping in a strange hotel and practicing in an unfamiliar facility, and being apart from ones family and simply having ones entire routine upset.

And, yeah, people generally respond better to adulation and support than jeering and opposition.

What a laughable post of yours! The reasons for home-field advantages are glaringly obvious, yet you're attributing them to prayer! Moderator cut: deleted

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Old 04-23-2011, 02:09 PM
 
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Let's see... being used to the local climatic conditions:
Green Bay Packers, Chicago Bears, Boston Red Sox, Minnesota Twins (rather cold at times of the seasons), Miami Dolphins, Florida Marlins (rather humid at times of the season), Denver Broncos, Colorado Rockies, Denver Nuggets, Colorado Avalanche (far thinner air than any other major league sports franchise in the United States), San Diego Chargers, Los Angeles Dodgers (rather hot at times during the season).

Being used to arena nuances:
Prevailing local winds and the effects of a particular stadium upon them -- difference surfaces (grass v. turf) -- varying ice conditions with arenas -- etc.

Being able to drive to work from home, rather than getting in on a red-eye and sleeping in a strange hotel and practicing in an unfamiliar facility, and being apart from ones family and simply having ones entire routine upset.

And, yeah, people generally respond better to adulation and support than jeering and opposition.

What a laughable post of yours! The reasons for home-field advantages are glaringly obvious, yet you're attributing them to prayer! Moderator cut: deleted
I know better than to get involved in these p....ing contests. I was not referring specifically to prayer . . . but to the transfer of consciousness energy from human to human that occurs when large numbers are in sync. It is a mystical thing . . . you are obviously physically chained to your sensory system and oblivious to it.
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Old 04-23-2011, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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If there really was a God why would he have to get a message from a mere human being informing him that Texas is having a terrible time with raging fires? Wouldn't an all knowing God already be aware of the plight of those living in the areas affected by the fires?
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Old 04-23-2011, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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If there really was a God why would he have to get a message from a mere human being informing him that Texas is having a terrible time with raging fires? Wouldn't an all knowing God already be aware of the plight of those living in the areas affected by the fires?
And an all knowing God would already know what he was going to do before they ever prayed. Do they think all this begging is going to change God's mind? By definition, an all knowing God can't change his mind.
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Old 04-23-2011, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Stephenville, Texas
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Well, it is Saturday at 6:25pm and there is a very heavy thunderstorm with hail, wind and heavy rain over the Possum Kingdom Lake area in Palo Pinto County. Guess we can all draw our own conclusions on that. I do hope that the area so devastated by the fire will get some good rains.
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Old 04-23-2011, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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If there really was a God why would he have to get a message from a mere human being informing him that Texas is having a terrible time with raging fires? Wouldn't an all knowing God already be aware of the plight of those living in the areas affected by the fires?
Some christians believe that god creates natural disasters to warn/punish people for their sins. In that case it would be like praying to an arsonist.
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Old 04-24-2011, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Stephenville, Texas
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There is everything wrong with this request. First off, prayer doesn't do anything except make the person praying think that they're helping, when all they're doing is sitting on their ass and talking to themselves. Secondly, a politician has no business whatsoever promoting religious practices while they are functioning in their political role.
Why not? Every liberal Democrat politician was falling all over themselves a few months to pander to the Muslims to build a mosque near ground zero.
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Old 04-24-2011, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Stephenville, Texas
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that should read "...a few months ago..."
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Old 04-24-2011, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Metromess
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That concerns equal rights, not promoting religion.
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